Any Jumpseat Privelages for NJA

[hopalong]

I was searching some threads and have been reading some
conflicting info. on NJA jumpseat privelages. Anyone know, what the deal is?
Do NJA pilots get them and if so, with what airlines?

 

[mamba20]

I would doubt there is. Why should there be? Its not like 121 pilots can jumpseat on NJA.

 

[EGLFO4LIFE]

There are no reciprocal deals with anyone. There are a few carriers I've heard of such SWA that may let you ride on a case by case basis(Captains discretion). It's nothing concrete that you can plan on or anything.

 

[Guitar rocker]

There are no reciprocal deals with anyone. There are a few carriers I've heard of such SWA that may let you ride on a case by case basis(Captains discretion). It's nothing concrete that you can plan on or anything.

I thought that commute air actually had an official deal with NJA....but maybe thats changed. I have done it before as I am sure many others have as well. Most cptns, out of the kindness of their heart, have let me go. Did get turned down by a Comair FO once tho....cptn was gonna let me go, but FO didnt think it was a good idea.

 

[NJAmerica]

ATA I used them twice last week

 

[CA1900]

I thought that commute air actually had an official deal with NJA....but maybe thats changed.

No, there never was an "official deal," as our airline doesn't have a reciprocal jumpseat list. We're permitted to take any pilot or flight attendant from a Part 121 or Part 135 carrier. (I believe NJA has a 135 certificate, which is why we're able to take you.)

In any case, I've taken Netjets guys before and am always happy to do so. Next time, though, I'm going to give the jumpseater my name so he can bug Derinda about getting me an interview sometime this year! Putting in a good word for us is all the reciprocation I need.

Did get turned down by a Comair FO once tho....cptn was gonna let me go, but FO didnt think it was a good idea.

Uhhhhh... who's in charge? Ack.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Uhhhhh... who's in charge? Ack.

Sounds like the FO was on that flight...

 

[skiandsurf]

When we landed he apologized again (FO was out doing the postflight) and said it was a new Comair Academy guy just off IOE. Go figure

Different situation, but good results...
Years ago I was Jumpseating on a United DC10. It was a full flight and there was an intern that was going to jumpseat. No problem, the DC10 has 2 seats. Then a United pilot shows up for the jumpseat. The captain now had to make a decision. He asked the FE (an over 60 guy) who gets to go???the intern or the off-line pilot. The old guy asked me, "do you pay ALPA dues?". I answered, "yes". He asked the intern the same question. His answer, "no". The FE then looks at the captain and said, "I know who I would take". I got the seat.

Thanks to all the UAL and AA crews for the years of jumpseating.

 

[Guitar rocker]

No, there never was an "official deal," as our airline doesn't have a reciprocal jumpseat list. We're permitted to take any pilot or flight attendant from a Part 121 or Part 135 carrier. (I believe NJA has a 135 certificate, which is why we're able to take you.)

In any case, I've taken Netjets guys before and am always happy to do so. Next time, though, I'm going to give the jumpseater my name so he can bug Derinda about getting me an interview sometime this year! Putting in a good word for us is all the reciprocation I need.



Uhhhhh... who's in charge? Ack.

CA1900.....I did ask for your JS many times out of PWM. But anyway, I always apppreicated and was grateful to you guys and just wanted to say thanks for the help you gave me getting down to BOS. All of you guys have been great to JS on.....and it's something that cant be taken for granted by any means.

I only hope to somehow return the favor.

 

[xdrvr]

Ya he probably still wears his uniform the grocery store

 

[DLconnection]

Comair has a recip. jumpseat agreement with Delta Air Elite. They are part 135 and similar to a NetJets operation in a way. Comair pilots can ride on the aircraft as long as its an empty flight operating under part 91. Its next to impossible to get on one of these things,plus the fact that you can never tell where they are going since it changes so much, but its still in writing that we could if we wanted to.
The point is that there is an recip. agreement in place between the 121 side and the 135 side. Granted the 121 pilots may never actually sit in the Air Elite aircraft. This agreement is in place for the Air Elite guys. Why can't Netjets or any other fractional set up a jumpseat agreement similar to this?

 

[Guitar rocker]

Ya he probably still wears his uniform the grocery store

Yah, I knew this one guy that flew at our little NW Airlink commuter up in the NE several yrs ago......before he would show up to work or after work, he would troll the mall with his uniform on and galsses on too. If they all knew that he was getting 900/month, nobody would have even noticed him.

 

[F9 Driver]

Unfortunatly the hard part at many/most airlines is getting past the gate agent. They need to get you into the computer to assign you a seat.

When I was at EJA we got on with F9,SWA, and ATA almost always. Some twit was JSing on HP's actual JS and started bragging about how he was going to make extra cash by turning in his "Y" fare ticket after they landed since he got home on the JS. That got us officially banned from their planes for a while.

I know it's not a cushy seat with a tv and cold drinks, but have you guys looked at Airnet? They go almost everywhere, although the times aren't great.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Unfortunatly the hard part at many/most airlines is getting past the gate agent. They need to get you into the computer to assign you a seat.

When I was at EJA we got on with F9,SWA, and ATA almost always. Some twit was JSing on HP's actual JS and started bragging about how he was going to make extra cash by turning in his "Y" fare ticket after they landed since he got home on the JS. That got us officially banned from their planes for a while.

I know it's not a cushy seat with a tv and cold drinks, but have you guys looked at Airnet? They go almost everywhere, although the times aren't great.

At my previous 121 fling, I was trying to JS from FRA to BOS or JFK/EWR....and the gate folks in FRA couldnt have been less friendly. After a little bit, I was trying to JS anywhere in the US. I was going down this escalator in FRA and saw a NW crew going up on the other side. As I was going down, I asked the cptn if I could go with him....didnt care where. As it turned out, I went back upstairs, and the NW cptn hooked me up on his JS to DTW.

ATA is great about the JS though......really good guys there as well.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The basics.

NJA management said "develop the protocols and get the airlines to buy off on you guys jumpseating and we'll approve it". (snicker, snicker)

Over the next several years, our Jumpseat Committee developed and approved policy adopted by all of the major players out there.

The protocols were forwarded to NJA management for review and approval and the entire program went dead. No one in the palace would return the Unions phone calls.

I guess they thought we couldn't get it done.

 

[Wankel7]

Sounds like an experience I had a couple years ago, my company had a recip. with Comair. I talked to the captain and he signed the form and welcomed me aboard. The FO (in his early 20's) was on his headset getting ATIS so I didn't bother him. As I turned to leave, the FO snatches the yellow copy out of my hand and flips into his Jepps and first checks my name againt the SCAB List, then checks my company against their reciprocal list. He then turns to me and the captain and says "I've never heard of you guys before, but I guess you're ok, I didn't think we let the freight guys ride".

At this point me and the CA are looking at this guy like he has 3 heads. The CA apologizes to me and tells me to take a seat. As I leave he shuts the cockpit door. When we landed he apologized again (FO was out doing the postflight) and said it was a new Comair Academy guy just off IOE. Go figure

That is nuts man ! What a turbo ******************************