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Found on the Yahoo DAL Board:
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By RUSSELL GRANTHAM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/10/04

Delta Air Lines' Song offshoot is being "soundly trounced" by JetBlue Airways on some competing flights to Florida, according to a Raymond James analyst who estimates that Song is losing thousands of dollars per flight.


Analyst James Parker estimated that, on four Florida routes from New York's John F. Kennedy International airport, Song's operating losses in the third quarter last year were $4,042 to $7,944 per one-way flight. JetBlue made an operating profit on the same four routes, Parker said, because it had lower operating costs, got higher average fares and filled more seats on its smaller planes.

Delta executives have said Song, launched last year, is making a slight profit and holding its own against JetBlue and other discount carriers. But Delta has also effectively put Song's previously rapid growth on hold amid a strategic review by new Chief Executive Officer Gerald Grinstein.

"I don't think Delta is going to shut down Song," said Parker. But he added, "It does not appear that they're going to expand it."

Parker disclosed that his employer handled JetBlue's initial public offering in 2002 and subsequent investment banking work. Delta is not a client of Raymond James.

Parker's estimates on the key Florida routes were based on traffic and revenue statistics reported to the U.S. Department of Transportation, plus unit cost figures from their public statements. He said Song's results were probably modestly better than his estimates, in part because his estimates don't include revenue from passengers on connecting flights or from food sales.
 
Interesting, but how does he know the numbers when even our Union doesn't? That analyst doesn't see the books, and it also took Jetblue awhile to become profitable, and we haven't hit one year yet with Song. This also hasn't taken into account the current cold snap in the NE, and the projected great Spring we will have.

Bye Bye--General Lee:rolleyes:
 
I just like to razz you Colonel, but if the Song numbers are so good, why not release them? After all, that would raise the stockprice and make the banks more willing to give DAL loans at favorable rates.

Neither you nor I can show the real numbers, but I believe they are in the negative.

Hopefully, the loads on the Int'l will be great this summer, need to subsidize the money losing segments.

(Let me know when you go to Nice, I will buy the first round!)
 
Dizel8 said:
After all, that would raise the stockprice and make the banks more willing to give DAL loans at favorable rates.

But then how would they convince the pilots that the only way to avoid bankruptcy (and pay for fancy new FA uniforms, a new terminal in BOS, upgraded terminal in JFK, new aircraft interiors...did I miss any?) is to take massive pay cuts and give away all the workrules and protections of the contract?????

.... sorry, I digress and will crawl back into the abyss known as charter flying....
 
Dizel8,

I am glad YOU know that Song's numbers are negative. You and Fred Reid must be TIGHT.....

Bye Bye--General Lee:rolleyes:
 
Well, we had dinner last night!:)

General, I did not say, that I know, I said I believe. Like you believe they are making a profit. Only one way to know for sure, but we both know that will not happen.

Hope the Xanex kicked in.
 

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