Another Professional opportunity

[ruhroa]

Hey Guys / Gals here is another one for us "professionals"

saw this on climb350 this mornin..........

US Enterprises inc. Looking for a HS25 CoPilot...........

Conyers, Georgia

They want
2000 total
1000 multi
500 Jet
100 HS25
Prefer A/p

you get

Part 91......co pilot and yes wait for it .................
Administrative assistant and (now dont get too excited) you also get to drive ...........why yes .............. you also get to be the limo driver but only when not flying.....................................wow

kinda was wonderin if i should share this wonderful opportunity ................ the #$#$%^ arrogant pompus assholes....... ooooops sorry .......not

 

[cptsesso]

That one is good, but how about the one for the Christian Westwind co-pilot who also assists in activities during church conferences and church meetings and by the way preferably is also an A&P mechanic.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

and climbto350 now CHARGES to view these opportunities??

 

[pilotyip]

Hey TJ time

Hey it is TJ time, 1,000 hrs of TJ SIC may get you the next job and start your path to your career position. You will be ahead of the CFI who has logged 1000 of SEL PIC. It could lead to a job where you log TJ PIC. You need this to move in your career. It is more important than a college degree, because only a few select operations require college degree. Is this job any worse than the $250 per week, no days off, no per-diem job in the on-demand business flying SIC on TJ equipment. It is up to the individual to make the choice and if it helps their career, who is any one to judge how someone gets their flight time.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

yeah. only a FEW select operations require a college degree these days...that jet time is much more marketable...(laugh!)

lets drag this one out of the closet ONE MORE TIME!

 

[pilotyip]

Name the airlines that require degrees

Name'em

 

[English]

Pilotyip, this is the CORPORATE forum, not the airline forum. Gulfstream 200 wrote about operators, not airlines. And, he is right on the money that for any decent 91 gig, one needs a degree.

Are you ever going to stop beating this dead horse?

 

[Jump Pilot]

I wonder if they make you pay for your own commerial driver training?

Anyway, get a head start boys:

Georgia Limo Chauffeur Permit

 

[pilotyip]

I know

This job could be a great opportunity for someone who wants to become an airline pilot. So they put their time in the corp gig and get the jet time that lets them move into their career position. So it is an airline connection, which leads to there are great airline jobs out there where a college degree is not required. JB, Spirit, Airtran, to name a few. No one should ever look down on a job that lets them advance to their next step, and if takes shinning shoes while waiting in the limo, it is still jet time.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

TIP:

Avoid the shoe-shine stage, go to college.

 

[English]

...classic....

 

[mainah]

TIP:

Avoid the shoe-shine stage, go to college.

ROFLMAO!!!!

 

[sleepy]

Re: I know

This job could be a great opportunity for someone who wants to become an airline pilot. So they put their time in the corp gig and get the jet time that lets them move into their career position. So it is an airline connection, which leads to there are great airline jobs out there where a college degree is not required. JB, Spirit, Airtran, to name a few. No one should ever look down on a job that lets them advance to their next step, and if takes shinning shoes while waiting in the limo, it is still jet time.

When I flew for a Fortune 50 corporation most of the older pilots did not have any college. A few of the younger pilots were also hired without any college, or only a two year degree. I know pilots at most of the large corporate operations in ATL, and many of them do not have college degrees. What they do have is quite a lot of experience flying corporate aircraft.

Most large corporations will pay for you to continue your education. I got my company to pay for most of a MAS degree, then I left. So, if you are hired without a degree, you could take advantage of one of these programs to get a degree. Distant learning programs are great for all of those hours you spend sitting in FBO's.

That said, it would make more sense to get at least a 2 year degree. A 4 year degree would be even better.

I have to agree with you that this job sounds better than being an instructor, even if you have to drive a limo. What I would do is try and find the last copilot that had this job, and see if it was a good stepping stone, or if the person just got fed-up and left.

I checked this company out. It is a real estate development company.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I agree 100%

take FULL advantage of tuition-reimbursement that most companys offer.

You cant beat a free (or close to) education. Plus with all hotels and many FBOs now having broadband - it kills time on the road.

(or at least keeps you out of the hotel bar every night!)

 

[Turbo]

The horse has been dead for many, many moons. Please stop beating it.

 

[pilotyip]

Thank You sleepy

Exactly, as I have saying, you can make it without a degree, and pursuit of flight time should be your first concern if you are going to be a professional pilot. The college degree can come as you are building time. Whats wrong with shinning shoes, we used to spend hours doing it in AOCS.

 

[aeronautic1]

GED

I have a GED, no college degree, am 47 years old (started late in aviation) and have racked up 2500 hours total time with over 1000 hours SIC (since 2000) in five models of Lears, three models of Citations and 3 models of Hawkers. Currently in HS25.

Simply put : it is not what you know, but who you know. Networking is the thing, man. I just got out of a hotel shuttle bus and had a nice conversation with a soon to be Independence Air (ACA) crew and our discussion was exactly what this string is about. 1000 hours SIC in turbojets is very marketable... in both commercial and corporate aviation venues.

And while a degree is a nice piece of wallpaper, if the choice is a, say ERAU grad, and a guy with turbojet experience, the kerosine guy has a leg up.

There are plenty of opportunities out there. You just have to make the effort to get face to face, with just about everybody you can. The phone will not ring unless you pick it up first.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

could not be more wrong...

The "kerosine" guy will have the leg up at the rat$hit 135 charter job who wants nothing but a current 8710 so they dont have to spend any money on you....good gigs are looking for a well qualified guy - they dont care about time in type, etc...everyone goes to school full contract at FSI anyways...its not an issue.

Qualified: matches corporate culture, can fit in on the road, safety minded with clean records (liability), EDUCATED, experienced, trainable, reliable.

All that 8710 does for you is allow you to jump from one 135 job to the next. Im not knocking it, it may pay the bills...but we are talking about CAREER goals here right?

Anyways, you can 14 million hours Jet PIC/SIC but without a degree you a SEVERELY limiting yourself in many arenas.

But, of course, the choice is up to the individual.

 

[aeronautic1]

8410

My 8410 is for Citation. My current Hawker job is corpoate part 91. As far as educamated, I have had plenty of offers from the regionals (e.g. AMR, COEX, NWAL, AIRWIS). And seriously considering moving into RJs. Just because I decided to go military after high school instead of college should not be discounted. Just a different kind of "education." I am optomisitc about my future in aviation. It is better to be proactive rather than a protagonist.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

WHOA!

Im sorry, I didn't realize we were talking about getting a regional airline job here...

$hit, in that case I wouldn't waste the time or money at college either.

Good Luck!