Another Brilliant Statement.........

[Captn]

Paul Czysz, an aeronautical engineering professor at St. Louis University, said the debris shower suggests a structural failure or wing failure.
"It sounds like the wings came off, which is not uncommon with an older airplane," he said in a telephone interview.

 

[chignutsak]

Paul Czysz, an aeronautical engineering professor at St. Louis University, said the debris shower suggests a structural failure or wing failure.
"It sounds like the wings came off, which is not uncommon with an older airplane," he said in a telephone interview.

Debris shower for what?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Chalks Ocean Airways had a wing separate under normal ops.

 

[The_Russian]

Chalks Ocean Airways had a wing separate under normal ops.

Wrong. Three things happened to make it abnormal. First, the wing was not mounted to the aircraft correctly. Second, the aircraft got stuck in the sand at Bimini the day before and the pilot "throttled" the aircraft free of the sand on the right wing. Third, the aircraft MAY have been overloaded. None of these instances make the situation normal.

Whatever happened to the piper was bad and very abnormal.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Wrong. Three things happened to make it abnormal. First, the wing was not mounted to the aircraft correctly. Second, the aircraft got stuck in the sand at Bimini the day before and the pilot "throttled" the aircraft free of the sand on the right wing. Third, the aircraft MAY have been overloaded. None of these instances make the situation normal.

Whatever happened to the piper was bad and very abnormal.

Thanks for the clarification as I hadn't know this. Last I heard it separated on a normal takeoff. Apparantly there were other preexisting issues.

My point though was that the pilot flew it within limitations and lost the wing tragically. IT may very well be the case that the Piper pilot followed the limitations as well, but the plane broke up anyway.

It's very possible that prior renters/students (if it was indeed a rental) abused it by exceeding tolerances which do not necessarily casue any structural failure at that point. It may have been seriously weakened and the next guy under normal operations has the breakup.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Wrong. Three things happened to make it abnormal. First, the wing was not mounted to the aircraft correctly. Second, the aircraft got stuck in the sand at Bimini the day before and the pilot "throttled" the aircraft free of the sand on the right wing. Third, the aircraft MAY have been overloaded. None of these instances make the situation normal.

Whatever happened to the piper was bad and very abnormal.

Holy crap! Really?

Do you have a link to a source or report please?

CE

P.S.
I meant the Chalks.

 

[Ravendriver]

June 1, 2006, 6:OO PM EDT
STAFFORD TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- A small plane that broke up over a southern new Jersey neighborhood before plunging into a wooded area and killing all four on board did not explode in flight, federal investigators said Thursday.

The two motored Cessna Piper Cub jet private plane possibly fell apart after it flew through air pockets. Air pockets are voids of air that frequently cause those little private planes to fall out of the air.

Some air pockets are bigger because of the prop wash of the airlines that previously flew through the area.

Film at 11:OO.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

June 1, 2006, 6:OO PM EDT
STAFFORD TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- A small plane that broke up over a southern new Jersey neighborhood before plunging into a wooded area and killing all four on board did not explode in flight, federal investigators said Thursday.

The two motored Cessna Piper Cub jet private plane possibly fell apart after it flew through air pockets. Air pockets are voids of air that frequently cause those little private planes to fall out of the air.

Some air pockets are bigger because of the prop wash of the airlines that previously flew through the area.

Film at 11:OO.

There are so many things wrong with that entire post.
(I can only hope you are kidding)

CE

 

[Amish RakeFight]

There are so many things wrong with that entire post.
(I can only hope you are kidding)

CE

yes, I think he is, but it was hilarious!!!:laugh:

Just showing how ignorant some news reports can be.

 

[Captn]

Paul Czysz, an aeronautical engineering professor at St. Louis University, said the debris shower suggests a structural failure or wing failure.
"It sounds like the wings came off, which is not uncommon with an older airplane," he said in a telephone interview.

This is not related to the Chalks Accident.

The last sentence of his statement is what I am rolling my eyes over.