ANG packet complete next step

[cloudkicker1981]

Thanks to all who have given advise in the past, I truly appreciate it. Just completed the final steps on the packet and was wondering if anyone knew of units that are hiring? I don't want to limit myself to just fighter units but that is what I'm leaning toward. Here are some of my stats:
AFOQT 89
PCSM 84
GPA 3.3
Flight 2000hr
BS in Aviation Flight Science
I know my PCSM could be better but I missed up on the orientation part, super tired from a 14hr duty day then a 3hr drive to the testing center. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated!

 

[duece123]

Paint the world with resumes. Thats what I did, and I am still getting phone calls to this day (I leave for UPT with my 1st choice unit in 2 months). Get on the horn and start getting in contact with units to make sure the right person gets your package. Lots of good guard rushing/interview info can be found on baseops.net. Just like any other job interview, do your research on the unit before you interview with them. Also, good luck with fighter units. It is tough to get an interview if you are not prior E of have a bad ass scores. They just have too many people applying for slots. Not saying it cant be done, but it is tough. I had a 99 pcsm and got shot down by ever fighter unit I applied to.

 

[Slice121]

Duece, congrats! I can honestly say though that someones PCSM score has little to do with them getting selected at a fighter squadron. Cloud, with your stats below you'd be competitive at most units. If they like you in the interview they will hire you.

 

[Frisko]

Agreed, make copies and VISIT the units you are really interested in.

2 suggestions...
1. If you want into a fighter unit don't be "leaning toward" trying to get a spot, especially when you talk to the dudes in the unit. Make it your goal and don't stop until you make it happen.

2. Stop making excuses about your PCSM score, it doesn't really matter and they don't want to hear it. If it does come up, the simple answer would be "I fuc***ed the test up, I know what I did wrong, I can't take it again, but I think other parts of my package make up for the bad score."

I screwed the PCSM up as well and it didn't matter. They want to see your character and how you deal with failure just as much as they want to see good test scores. Lots of opportunity to deal with failure in UPT.

Good Luck

 

[cloudkicker1981]

thanks again

Thanks for the info guys, I knew when i wrote about the reasons for the pcsm scores that it sounded like bs but dont worry i wouldnt dare make excuses in an interview. And yes I believe also that its all or nothing, Im 25 now so for the next 2yrs i will be a little whore and visit as many fighter wings as possible. If by 27 i dont have anything then its off to the 130, 135, or -5 but for now thanks for the baseops and also the encouragement. You try and explain all this stuff to freinds or family and they get completely lost. Also if Shuan you see this thanks agian buddy for all the info on Idaho.......

 

[Scrapdog]

i will be a little whore. Also if Shuan you see this thanks agian buddy .......

Sounds like cloudkicker's got a little brokeback in him. "Shuan, I wish I could quit you!" LOL J/K, good luck bud....

 

[Jafar]

Agreed, make copies and VISIT the units you are really interested in.

2 suggestions...
1. If you want into a fighter unit don't be "leaning toward" trying to get a spot, especially when you talk to the dudes in the unit. Make it your goal and don't stop until you make it happen.

2. Stop making excuses about your PCSM score, it doesn't really matter and they don't want to hear it. If it does come up, the simple answer would be "I fuc***ed the test up, I know what I did wrong, I can't take it again, but I think other parts of my package make up for the bad score."

I screwed the PCSM up as well and it didn't matter. They want to see your character and how you deal with failure just as much as they want to see good test scores. Lots of opportunity to deal with failure in UPT.

Good Luck

The above advice I can really relate to. In regards to point number 1, a quick anecdote. During one of my visits prior to the interview I noticed another guy who was obviously rushing the unit hanging out in ops. I asked one of the pilots what his story was and he said, "That guy told us he either wanted to fly with us or fly C-17's in Washington. I told him he ought to go fly C-17's in Washington then." That seemed to be the predominant attitude. You either want this or you want that. If you want both then you must want that as opposed to this. If you want fighters, they need to know you WANT IT.

As far as excuses, I think you'll find yourself in a few situations, particularly in the interview, which may seem like you need to use an excuse. Don't do it, its a trap. Be accountable, be responsible, don't make excuses. Example; at one point in my interview I got, "So with the years in service you've got, why is it you lacked the personal discipline to get your car properly registered back in 2002?" (I had an expired tags ticket that was listed somewhere I guess.)

The question was asked somewhat in jest, but it was clear they didn't give a crap about my tags but more about how I answered the question. If I had started my response with, "Well that cop..." or "Well you see, my brother's pimp..." or "Well my girlfriend..." the interview would have been pretty much lost.

Another example; all my scores were in the 90's so I didn't expect much heat about them, but my GPA sucked. So one of the officers hits me with, "Now you've got some of the best scores I've seen in a while. However your GPA is not good. In looking at your transcripts, they aren't good either. Why should we think that you'd perform any better in UPT?"

Again, this is a make or break deal in my opinion. It has nothing to do with my abysmal GPA and everything to do with how I answer this question. If I had lead off with "Well I had this instructor who..." or "Well I was working as a pizza delivery guy and..." my fate would have been sealed immediately.

Accountability and integrity. Excuses aren't where its at. Good luck to you.