waveflyer
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- Jan 9, 2005
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you guys are talking my speed- capitalism pure and simple- a pilot job is respected worldwide- cost of living is evening out around the world and that's a good thing- i don't think we'd do that bad either- we've been taking it in the shorts for a while now...
but i find most of you funny, i change the subject to our own career and ya'll run scared- I say enter the free market and do away w/ seniority governed careers and i get an earfull from everyone-- hence my NSL speeches...(ie: it's a If you sit, sit, if you stand, stand, whatever you do- don't wobble- thing)
-not proposing doing away w/ unions- just their role would change to lobbying gov't and SETTING STANDARDS-- then let us each decide how much we're willing to do this for-I can negotiate for me better than anyone else, and then i don't have to worry about baby-boomers selling me out- the market is the market= my guess... since they need ALL of us to fly, but only 20-40% of us will stand strong-- in a free market we'll do better-- bc the weak among us ARE weak... until they see the 20-40% get better $$ for the same job... then they'll rise up... Collective bargaining w/ our government working against it just hasn't held up in it's current form... We're all working for below a market wage bc we're scared to death of losing our "seniority-security blanket"... it's why Corporate pilots live better for 1/4 the work. If you're at a legacy, how secure do you feel w/ our current system? Yet we still do the bulk of the flying in this country...
just thinking out loud-- and knowing-- like fuel=- if the free market demanded pilots get paid more- they would do it w/o blinking-- but when a union forces it on them... everyone is galvanized to work against it... Think how much union resources could be used to lobby for higher standards and rest rules/safety if they didn't have to work on contracts--Those higher standards would then be used by us in negotiations for ourselves- unions could still provide contract services to each of us-- templates for industry standards etc...
then i realize this is falling on deaf and probably angry ears.....
but i find most of you funny, i change the subject to our own career and ya'll run scared- I say enter the free market and do away w/ seniority governed careers and i get an earfull from everyone-- hence my NSL speeches...(ie: it's a If you sit, sit, if you stand, stand, whatever you do- don't wobble- thing)
-not proposing doing away w/ unions- just their role would change to lobbying gov't and SETTING STANDARDS-- then let us each decide how much we're willing to do this for-I can negotiate for me better than anyone else, and then i don't have to worry about baby-boomers selling me out- the market is the market= my guess... since they need ALL of us to fly, but only 20-40% of us will stand strong-- in a free market we'll do better-- bc the weak among us ARE weak... until they see the 20-40% get better $$ for the same job... then they'll rise up... Collective bargaining w/ our government working against it just hasn't held up in it's current form... We're all working for below a market wage bc we're scared to death of losing our "seniority-security blanket"... it's why Corporate pilots live better for 1/4 the work. If you're at a legacy, how secure do you feel w/ our current system? Yet we still do the bulk of the flying in this country...
just thinking out loud-- and knowing-- like fuel=- if the free market demanded pilots get paid more- they would do it w/o blinking-- but when a union forces it on them... everyone is galvanized to work against it... Think how much union resources could be used to lobby for higher standards and rest rules/safety if they didn't have to work on contracts--Those higher standards would then be used by us in negotiations for ourselves- unions could still provide contract services to each of us-- templates for industry standards etc...
then i realize this is falling on deaf and probably angry ears.....