Altitude Deviations

[Count Dracula]

Doing a study on altitude deviations that infringed on IFR separation standards, ie RA's. Anyone with background or history of FAA enforcement would be greatly appreciated.

 

[charter dog]

I am not sure from your post what the focus of your study is. What aspect of altitude deviations are you looking to support with published data? I'm just guessing here, but could it be any of the following?

The nature and reasons for the deviations.
MAC and NMAC instances related to or caused by altitude deviations.
Suggested measures for preventing altitude deviations.
Instances of TCAS RAs in an RVSM environment.
Measures for preventing unecessary TCAS RAs.
FAA enforcement policy and history regarding altitude deviations.

Any or all of the above selections would be good subject matter for a study culminating in an article or series of articles on the general subject of altitude deviations. Quite a bit of work to gather the necessary reference material! Just to get you started, (if you have not allready done so) here is a link to the ASRS database report set page. After reviewing the report sets on altitude deviations and TCAS II incidents, you may wish to search the ASRS site for further reports. Searches on FAA.gov and google will likely provide a further wealth of information.

Best of success in your project. I'd like to know more about it.

Best,

 

[Count Dracula]

I'm particularly interested in FAA Enforcement of altitude deviations and the decision-making involved to violate an airman or crew. Thanks for the info. I'm familiar with the ASRS Reporting System. Filing a report can alleviate the penalty ie, suspension or fine, but not necessarily a violation on their record.

 

[Hold West]

I'm particularly interested in FAA Enforcement of altitude deviations and the decision-making involved to violate an airman or crew. Thanks for the info. I'm familiar with the ASRS Reporting System. Filing a report can alleviate the penalty ie, suspension or fine, but not necessarily a violation on their record.

PM me an e-mail address and we can talk about this a bit.

 

[JAFI]

What is your reason for the study? Your scope is still kind of broad. Exactly what areas are you looking into?

You can PM me if you have specific questions.

JAFI

 

[GravityHater]

You must want the other pilots forum... we don't make such busts here.
!!!

 

[Slice121]

You must want the other pilots forum... we don't make such busts here.
!!!

And would never admit it in writing or on the tape!

 

[SPilot]

I guess I will be stretching the copyright if I post the entire article here, so I'll just post parts of it, make it into a nice little intro, and then you can find the rest of it on the link:

ATC’s Failure To Provide Notice Of Deviation

In Administrator v. Pate and Yoder, respondents Pate and Yoder were operating a Boeing 737-522. Pate was pilot in command and Yoder was second in command. As they were approaching Cedar Rapids, Iowa for landing, the pilots were instructed to descend to an altitude of 2,500 feet and to maintain a heading of 50 degrees. However, shortly after receiving that clearance, they turned their aircraft to a heading of 250 degrees and climbed to an altitude of 3,000 feet.

When the pilots realized that the aircraft had climbed above its assigned altitude, they immediately began a descent back to 2,500. However, the combination of improper altitude and incorrect heading resulted in a loss of standard separation when the aircraft came within 500 feet vertically and two and one-half miles laterally of another airliner. ATC made no comment regarding the deviations and the pilots landed without further incident.

After the flight, the FAA issued Notices of Proposed Certificate action against Pate and Yoder. The FAA alleged that the pilots violated FAR 91.123 which requires that “Except in an emergency, no person may operate an aircraft contrary to an ATC instruction in an area in which air traffic control is exercised. The FAA also alleged violation of FAR 91.13 which provides that “No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another. The FAA wanted to suspend Pate’s and Yoder’s airline transport pilot certificates for periods of 15 and 7 days respectively.

As always, fly safe and fly smart.

For more information regarding aviation law, safety and security, e-mail Greg at [email protected] or visit his website at www.aerolegalservices.com.

link: http://www.globalair.com/discussions/legal_services/article.asp?msgID=37&submit=Get+Article

As we can see, the 91.13 is used against everyone anytime, it is the mother of all other rules, because operating an aircraft in any way without FAA sanction is reckless by definition.