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Tonala2k

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Just a fun story from the other day.

My IFR student and I were flying home at night from a long X-C when the alternator failed. Here are few gems I picked up that night.

"What are the next two things?" is a very vague statement. My student learned best with "Where are you now?" "Where are you going" "How are you going to get there?" "How will you know once you get there?" "How long will it take you to get there?" "Where are you going from there"...Repeat the questioning.

The warning light didn't come one until after we had a heavy battery bleed. Who knows how long we were operating on battery only.

Transmitting uses 3x the energy than monitoring.

Keep that POH at hand during all phases of flight.

We had one flashlight with weak batteries, one's bulb burned out, another one's batteries died, and two that held faithful. I'm never taking off with fewer than five flashlights handy.

Think before you speak. Aviate, Navigate, THEN Communicate. I allowed myself to get in such a rush that ATC was having trouble understanding my requests.

ATC is there to help. They worry about you so make sure you speak to them with confidence so they know you are all right. This allows them to handle other aircraft at the same time. If you sound worried, or are not speaking clearly they put a lot aside to help you, so be sure to help them back.

ATC authorized us to shut off the master and just report every 3min. We kept on NAV/COMM 1, Transponder, Nav lights, Beacon. (while we checked in that is.)

With a Mag compass and a six pack (Less turn coordinator) my student had to fly a STAR checking his position only once every 3 minutes on a single VOR)

Keep in control as the instructor. This was a wonderful experience for us both. By keeping myself aware and in control I was able to delegate to my student all authority for the flight knowing that I would be able to help him in any way he needed. Had I not been ready for such a challenge we would have diverted to the nearest airport only a half hour flight from home. Our wives would have had to come pick us up, and the plane would still have had to be flown back for repairs.

I hope this is enjoyable reading.
 
What I learned from my night alternator failure.

Besides by two flashlights and spare batteries, I also carry a Narco handheld and a portable GPS.
 
Thanks for the post. This is a great example of the type of experience you get instructing, and why lots of the 135 operators like to hire active CFIs. And its why so many former CFIs tell guys just getting started to get their CFI and go get some experience!
 
"zero time to hired!"

CatNHat

I remember when I first started getting serious about flying. I was sold on the idea of training at XYZ Flight School because they can get you a job with out becoming an instructor. What a terrible waist that would have been. I have prospective students ask me about those programs. My answere is along the lines of, "Sure, if you don't like aviation that would be fine."
 
It was VMC. I think I would land ASAP in IMC. Don't want to lose power on final. Yikes!!! In VMC we had a back up - go visual. In IMC the only back up would be a few good prayers. Don't like to tempt God.
 
Tonala2K, thanks for sharing your experiences. You gave a good picture of what was going on in the cockpit, and how you handled it. You made some great points that could help any instructor that finds himself in this situation!

I only got one question for you, if you wouldn't mind explaining to me. When you went to check in every 3 minutes, why did you leave your beacon and nav lights on? Wouldn't those cost you that much more in battery life (not knowing for sure how much life is on the battery)? I'm not Monday morning quarterbacking here, or saying what you did was wrong, I'm just curous what your thinking was behind that.
 
Again,
you could be a pilot but cannot spell the words right.. I cannot believe two people made the mistakes above..

"where you IMC?" - should read "were you IMC?"
"waist " - should read "waste"..

I cannot believe you are making these mistakes.. That tells me right there that the entire education of pilots went down dramatically..
 
Flying ToIST,

I apologize for my spelling error. No actually I don't, because it's not really a spelling error it was a grammatical error. I apologize for my grammatical error. I must admit that I do not check over my flightinfo posts as carefully as I would check over a more important document.

However, your posts on flightinfo may just be all you have going for you in your life right now.

Secondly, I noticed that you put two (2) periods (.) at the end of each sentence. I am pretty sure that this is also grammatically incorrect. You may have intended to use an ellipsis.

The Chicago Manual of Style suggests the use of an ellipsis (also known as an ellipse) for any omitted word, phrase, line or paragraph from within a quoted passage. There are two commonly used methods of using ellipses: one uses three dots for any omission, the second makes a distinction between omissions within a sentence (using three dots: …) and omissions between sentences (using a period and a space followed by three nonbreaking-spaced dots: . . .). The plural for ellipsis is ellipses.

Thirdly, there is research that suggests that spelling ability does not equate intelligence.

I am not sure how spelling corralates to pilot ability though, maybe you could do that for your doctorate. You do have a masters don’t you?

This post may contaain multiple grammatical and/or spelling errors.
 
FlyingToIST said:
"where you IMC?" - should read "were you IMC?"
"waist " - should read "waste"..

I cannot believe you are making these mistakes.. That tells me right there that the entire education of pilots went down dramatically..
Who do you think really cares, Mr. Grammar Police?

Since when has not being able to spell "waste" and "were" make you any better or worse a pilot. In the end its not what degree or education you have, it's how good of a pilot you are.

Quit being so petty you moron....
 

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