ALPAs flight time recommendataions

[OCP]

Anyone notice that their recommendation for number of legs per duty period is titled "Maximum Flight Duty Period (hours) for Lineholders Based on
Number of Flight Segments"?
Can you imagine what the companies would do to reserves if this verbiage got in.
They also recommend a min 10 hr rest period which would only allow a 14 hr day.

 

[JumpersAway]

It did mention rest rule minimums for reserves as part of the memo, but didn't publish the details. It's on the map.......................

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Anyone notice that their recommendation for number of legs per duty period is titled "Maximum Flight Duty Period (hours) for Lineholders Based on
Number of Flight Segments"?
Can you imagine what the companies would do to reserves if this verbiage got in.
They also recommend a min 10 hr rest period which would only allow a 14 hr day.

Only allow a 14 hour duty day? Are you looking for longer?

 

[jetracer5]

Anyone notice that their recommendation for number of legs per duty period is titled "Maximum Flight Duty Period (hours) for Lineholders Based on
Number of Flight Segments"?
Can you imagine what the companies would do to reserves if this verbiage got in.
They also recommend a min 10 hr rest period which would only allow a 14 hr day.

These new proposed rules are almost no different than what we already have and most airlines have tighter rules already in there contracts. ALPA needs to start working for the pilots and not the airlines!!

 

[OCP]

Only allow a 14 hour duty day? Are you looking for longer?

Sarcasm.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

This damn sarcasm APP is not worth the .99 cents. Sorry.

 

[WayBack]

Glad ALPA has guys figuring out whats best for time/duty/rest who haven't flown the line in decades.

 

[OCP]

This damn sarcasm APP is not worth the .99 cents. Sorry.

No worries... I'm not up on all my emoticon thingys so I didn't have one in there.

 

[Draginass]

Alpa = stupid

 

[DoinTime]

Glad ALPA has guys figuring out whats best for time/duty/rest who haven't flown the line in decades.

People at ALPA didn't just pull these rules out of their butts and say "that looks about right". These rules were established by scientists that specialize in human fatigue. You don't need to fly an airplane to figure this stuff out....you need a PhD.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

People at ALPA didn't just pull these rules out of their butts and say "that looks about right". These rules were established by scientists that specialize in human fatigue. You don't need to fly an airplane to figure this stuff out....you need a PhD.

You're kidding, right?

 

[buscap]

While all of this was spurd along by the Colgan crash, what seems to be ignored is the fact that crew-rest was not a factor in that crash. Poor choices by the pilots lead to any rest or fatigue issues which may have been causal.

Now if ALPA really wants to earn their bread, perhaps they would address germain issues which actually were a factor in the Colgan event and continue to be a factor in our cockpits on a daily basis:

1. Make all sick-calls and fatigue calls completely jeopardy-free events, even if you don't have the sick-time. In other words, no occurrences. Yes, people will abuse it, but running out of sick-time will eventually act as a valve.

2. Come up with an industry standard commuter-clause regulation. In order to be worthwhile, it will have to be better than anything I've read in a contract.

3. Establish any uniformed commuting CASS rider as the highest non-revenue priority on any flight. Yes, this will get the FEDS even deeper in our poop, but it will make things better for the commuters.

4. If 2 and 3 are not established, the FEDS should just make commuting illegal and mandate all pilots live within two hours of work. Just kidding...