Aloha/ Hawaiin schedules?

[jes77jes]

Just wondering what average Aloha and Hawaiin schedules are. Are the majority day trips? Basically, can you be in your own bed most nights as opposed to mainland flying (gone half the month)?
Thanks

 

[Hansoma]

Well, I don't know about the other Hawaiian pilots, but I've been able to sleep in my own bed for the last 13 months or so.... However, that's all going to change!!!

 

[AQ PILOT]

not for long 'eh hansoma

rumor has it you may not be spending all your nights in your own bed fairly soon...must be a vacation or something i guess....

 

[HAL]

Got your e-mail Hansoma, congrats!!!

Don't forget the sunscreen!!

HAL

 

[AQ PILOT]

AQ skeds

At AQ, if you are interisland you spend everynight at home...

If you fly the -700, then you usually have 5 - 2/3 day trips....if you're reserve, all bets are off, but more than likely only do 2 or 3 trips a month max....

 

[HAL]

At Hawaiian, unless you fly the 717, you'll spend a number of nights each month away from home. The interisland pilots essentially fly a morning or afternoon schedule, and are home every night.

The 767 schedules are usually two or three day trips, out and back across the Pacific. The layover is sometimes 12 hours, but more often 24 or more. Most of the trips originate out of HNL, with a small pilot base in Seattle too. Most of the HNL trips go to the west coast cities, and soon to Sydney Australia too.

Here are some sample schedules:

DEP ARR DEP/TIME ARR/TIME

HNL 767:

HNL LAX 0835 1630 Layover-14:50
LAX HNL 0855 1120

HNL OGG (DH) 1220 1257
OGG PDX 1435 2250 Layover-33:10
PDX HNL 0915 1155

HNL SMF 1315 2120 Layover-10:35
SMF HNL 0910 1130

Note that the Sacremento (SMF) trip ends up being more than 8 hours in 24. They get around that by using the regulation that allows that if there is a break before you get to 8 hours, and the rest period must be at least double the flight time. Here the HNL-SMF flight time is 5:05, so there must be at least 10:10 of rest. Since the scheduled rest is 10:35, if the inbound flight is late, or the flight time runs longer than scheduled, the outbound flight the next morning is delayed.

Here is a typical 717 schedule:

(HNL=Honolulu, LIH=Lihue Kauai, OGG=Kahului Maui, KOA=Kona)

HNL LIH 0737 0814
LIH HNL 0839 0908
HNL OGG 0935 1012
OGG HNL 1037 1111
HNL KOA 1138 1221
KOA OGG 1246 1315
OGG KOA 1425 1456
KOA HNL 1521 1601

Block time 4:40
Credit time 5:29
Time away from base 9:09

HAL

 

[AQ PILOT]

Hey HAL

What is going on with your SAC flights? I keep hearing you're gonna cancel those so you have the extra bird available for Sydney. Then I hear you're gonna cancel your second SEA flight to do the Sydney trip. Then I hear you're gonna do a combination of the two to get a bird available for Sydney. Would you hurry up and make up your mind so we can play catch up to you guys?

Any news on your recall yet?

Hansoma -

Etops is no longer allowed for you...understand me? Good! We have enough competition out here.....Congrats again....

 

[Hansoma]

Well.....if I have to. I suppose I could find somewhere else to fly. I just don't know how I feel about spending all that time flying over land so close to an airport! What is there to look at down there anyway? How will I get all my reading done? Thanks Guys!

 

[HAL]

AQ Pilot,

I haven't heard anything about dropping SMF. We did end the Ontario CA flights early, then used that plane to fly the extra SEA trips until SYD starts. Then that plane will be used exclusively for SYD. I'd doubt if they stop Sacremento because that's a pretty full flight for us.

Nothing on recall yet. I probably won't know exactly where I'm sitting until 1) I get the recall notice or, 2) the six month seniority list come out July 1st or, 3) another vacancy bid come out. Since I'll probably get recalled this time only if someone bypasses or fails training, it could be anywhere from a few weeks to a couple months before I hear anything.

HAL

 

[AQ PILOT]

Oh yeah...

That's right...you guys did stop the ONT flights...I forgot that! Somewhere I heard something about SMF being pulled...surely was a rumor...Well I hope you make it back this round on the recalls. You have too much time to post here and ya make me nervous! Good luck...