Alaska or United?

[igneousy2]

Alaska upgrade is 9.5 years right now because we happen to be in a thin part of the seniority list. That number will start to go up again once we get into the 2006-2007 hires then there will be a large gap down when we get to the post-furlough hires.

It's 9.5 years to be an ANC Captain...it's another 200ish numbers to be a Captain in the lower 48 with only 50 ish retirements a year.

If you can overlook the pilot groups overall spinelessness, there are a good bunch of pilots flying for Alaska.

You will have the option of having a better quality of life-sooner at United. Friend at United has the same system seniority at United as I do but has been able to hold better schedules because he has taken the option of staying on the junior equipment. At Alaska, you are always in the senior equipment.

Delta has actually helped the pilots at Alaska...hiring/growth would have been nowhere near what it has been without them. Now that we got the 170's coming (flown by Skywest) I think you will see a slow down of mainline growth with most of the new route announcements going to Skywest.

Goodluck either way you choose

 

[sniper]

Offers from both, but really want to go to SWA?

Ready..... go!

Delta hands down .... Give it a try

 

[RNP.15]

Yea, go anywhere but Alaska or Southwest there redheaded step children. Give me a break how quick they forget.

 

[General Lee]

Yea, go anywhere but Alaska or Southwest there redheaded step children. Give me a break how quick they forget.

Times have changed. Consolidation, bag fees and change fees, and now lower gas to add to the mega profits. That's probably something you won't forget now.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Old School 737]

Times have changed. Consolidation, bag fees and change fees, and now lower gas to add to the mega profits. That's probably something you won't forget now.


Bye Bye---General Lee

How's that refinery gonna do with all this lower gas ?

 

[General Lee]

How's that refinery gonna do with all this lower gas ?

In the last conference call (Q3) the CFO stated about a $20 million profit, even with lower oil. It just turns the oil into gas (and other products like hearing oil, etc). You know that, right? The overall cost of the refinery was about what one new 777 costs. DL is slated to make $4.5 billion this year.


From the Seeking Alpha summary of the DL Q3 conference call: quoting the CFO:

"The refinery made a $19 million profit for the quarter which lowered our fuel price by $0.02 per gallon. The refinery?s profit represents a $16 million improvement over the same period last year. A key driver of the profitability was our domestic crude initiative as we processed 100,000 barrels per day of domestic crude during the quarter. We are on-pace to achieve our goal of averaging 70,000 barrels per day for the full year, which should increase to 100,000 barrels per day in 2015. For the December quarter, we?re expecting to pay $2.69 to $2.74 per gallon for fuel including the refinery and hedge impacts. This includes the projected profit of the refinery of $20 million driven by widening crack spreads. The refinery team is running a great operation and continuous to generate meaningful year-over-year improvements there."




Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Ex737Driver]

In the last conference call (Q3) the CFO stated about a $20 million profit for the year, even with lower oil. It just turns the oil into gas (and other products like hearing oil, etc). You know that, right? The overall cost of the refinery was about what one new 777 costs. DL is slated to make $4.5 billion this year.


From the Seeking Alpha summary of the DL Q3 conference call: quoting the CFO:

"The refinery made a $19 million profit for the quarter which lowered our fuel price by $0.02 per gallon. The refinery?s profit represents a $16 million improvement over the same period last year. A key driver of the profitability was our domestic crude initiative as we processed 100,000 barrels per day of domestic crude during the quarter. We are on-pace to achieve our goal of averaging 70,000 barrels per day for the full year, which should increase to 100,000 barrels per day in 2015. For the December quarter, we?re expecting to pay $2.69 to $2.74 per gallon for fuel including the refinery and hedge impacts. This includes the projected profit of the refinery of $20 million driven by widening crack spreads. The refinery team is running a great operation and continuous to generate meaningful year-over-year improvements there."




Bye Bye---General Lee

Still believe that the refinery purchase was a stellar idea. Fossil fuels, no matter what the reserves are in the world, still have a limit. With low oil costs, all this does is allow DAL to further hone the refining and distribution process to THEMSELVES while the rest of us are dependent upon others which don't necessarily have our best interests at heart.

 

[General Lee]

Still believe that the refinery purchase was a stellar idea. Fossil fuels, no matter what the reserves are in the world, still have a limit. With low oil costs, all this does is allow DAL to further hone the refining and distribution process to THEMSELVES while the rest of us are dependent upon others which don't necessarily have our best interests at heart.

Well I think DL buying the refinery has helped ALL airlines on the East Coast, not just DL.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Ex737Driver]

Well I think DL buying the refinery has helped ALL airlines on the East Coast, not just DL.


Bye Bye---General Lee

So are you saying DAL has UAL's best interests at heart?

 

[slaquer5]

Yea, go anywhere but Alaska or Southwest there redheaded step children. Give me a break how quick they forget.

You sound like you have lots of love


Your kids are lucky to have you as a parent .


I bet you could write a great children's book.