AK737FO
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- Joined
- Nov 25, 2001
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Come on guys - relax - goosefrabbaa- have a sandwitch or something.
Why so much anger and hate towards your company and your union? I don't get it.
You work for a great airline. You are now being paid very well. Some years #2, some years #4 and if we get a big PBP - some years maybe #1. Don't forget that the differance between #2 and #4 is only a buck or two - not $20.
Our management has a good thing going. They are good at making money with a 737. They are looking for 10% ROIC. They have achieved that for the last few years. The best that QX has ever done is 6.5% ROIC which means we are subsidizing them. But somehow, there are those (1/3?) that think it would be a smart business decision to give up 11% ROIC and replace it with 6.5% ROIC.
I hope that American has success and that they can push the bar even further forward. Right now it is speculation, which is why it was not included in any of our negotiations. If they do put together a great package, then you can bet UniCal and Delta will follow suit in a few years, then we will come along a year or so after that and join them. That is the way this industy works - the way it has always worked.
Why all the hate recently? I just don't get it. There seems to be a batch of guys, SNAPS as they have come to be known, who just hate. Look, I understand some of it. Once upon a time early in my career, I remember being frustrated and angry. But I guess that I slowly figured it out - that this is a great company, that I am paid a fair wage, that I have good benifits, that I get to do some cool flying and spend my days off doing neat things - there is really nothing to be angry / frustrated about! I know that upgrade times are not what we would all like, but Alaska Airlines is still one of the quickest upgrading airlines in the nation, second only to LUV. You want high suck? Look at some of the 20 plus years it takes to upgrade at some of the other airlines.
I realize that most will disagree with me. There will be some more poo throwing, probably a lot of "you got yours" and "Captains just don't understand". There will be those who are certain that the RJ's are coming and will refuse to accept reality when they don't show up. I imagine there will even be some more creative language because cussing somebody out on the internet is a time tested tactic. And what time I have spent here on this board, sipping my morning joe before I head off to work, has done nothing (but fire up some SNAPS).
I've been a member of this board for something like 14 or 15 years. I've always enjoyed it. But it has changed into a bunch of haters who do not share my values / opinions anymore. Maybe I've matured, maybe the next generation is different, I don't know. But I'm thinking more and more that there are a lot better things I could do with my coffee time. We use to have discussions on this board. Now it's just cussing and hate. I don't get it.
Why so much anger and hate towards your company and your union? I don't get it.
You work for a great airline. You are now being paid very well. Some years #2, some years #4 and if we get a big PBP - some years maybe #1. Don't forget that the differance between #2 and #4 is only a buck or two - not $20.
Our management has a good thing going. They are good at making money with a 737. They are looking for 10% ROIC. They have achieved that for the last few years. The best that QX has ever done is 6.5% ROIC which means we are subsidizing them. But somehow, there are those (1/3?) that think it would be a smart business decision to give up 11% ROIC and replace it with 6.5% ROIC.
I hope that American has success and that they can push the bar even further forward. Right now it is speculation, which is why it was not included in any of our negotiations. If they do put together a great package, then you can bet UniCal and Delta will follow suit in a few years, then we will come along a year or so after that and join them. That is the way this industy works - the way it has always worked.
Why all the hate recently? I just don't get it. There seems to be a batch of guys, SNAPS as they have come to be known, who just hate. Look, I understand some of it. Once upon a time early in my career, I remember being frustrated and angry. But I guess that I slowly figured it out - that this is a great company, that I am paid a fair wage, that I have good benifits, that I get to do some cool flying and spend my days off doing neat things - there is really nothing to be angry / frustrated about! I know that upgrade times are not what we would all like, but Alaska Airlines is still one of the quickest upgrading airlines in the nation, second only to LUV. You want high suck? Look at some of the 20 plus years it takes to upgrade at some of the other airlines.
I realize that most will disagree with me. There will be some more poo throwing, probably a lot of "you got yours" and "Captains just don't understand". There will be those who are certain that the RJ's are coming and will refuse to accept reality when they don't show up. I imagine there will even be some more creative language because cussing somebody out on the internet is a time tested tactic. And what time I have spent here on this board, sipping my morning joe before I head off to work, has done nothing (but fire up some SNAPS).
I've been a member of this board for something like 14 or 15 years. I've always enjoyed it. But it has changed into a bunch of haters who do not share my values / opinions anymore. Maybe I've matured, maybe the next generation is different, I don't know. But I'm thinking more and more that there are a lot better things I could do with my coffee time. We use to have discussions on this board. Now it's just cussing and hate. I don't get it.
