AirWisk "Bob Frisch" letter????

[BUDDHA145]

Is this true??? 50% cut on pilots or is all B.S...holly shyt!!! I hope am DEAD wrong!!!!

 

[Kenny]

Nothing of the sort and no such letter.................You've been had!

 

[gangdev]

You scared me there for a second. I have not seen any notice of this sort. All I have seen now is a letter on improving our competitiveness for the UAL RFP.

 

[JoeMerchant]

What aircraft are up for RFP at United?

 

[BUDDHA145]

SORRY for this, I am going on a azz wooping!!! this shoulnt been a joke at all...

 

[Airboss]

Heard that ASA was/is talking to United about some IAD flying. They wanted skywest to do it pre-asa contract (performance based) but they were tapped out of resources, and now ASA is on their list.

 

[rightrudder]

We may have a block hour reduction by LCC of about 9%. We staff by block hour, so there may be some potential f's.

 

[AWACoff]

Anything is possible with that guy "running" the show. He is also the same person who told the grievance chairman, B.P. (while he was sitting back in Scott's chair and had his feet up on Scott's desk),
"There's a new sheriff in town. I'm running the show now, not Scott.". Oh, did I mention Scott wasn't even dead yet.


....what a disgusting disease. Too bad there isn't a cure.

 

[IADBLRJ41]

Scott was a true pro pilot guy. Still hard to believe he is not around. I miss him like hell!

Anything is possible with that guy "running" the show. He is also the same person who told the grievance chairman, B.P. (while he was sitting back in Scott's chair and had his feet up on Scott's desk),
"There's a new sheriff in town. I'm running the show now, not Scott.". Oh, did I mention Scott wasn't even dead yet.


....what a disgusting disease. Too bad there isn't a cure.

 

[spudskier]

What aircraft are up for RFP at United?

50-seat flying from what I understand, ASA is gung-ho about it and S.H. has been talking about it very excitedly all over the place

 

[BoilerUP]

50-seat flying from what I understand, ASA is gung-ho about it and S.H. has been talking about it very excitedly all over the place

And 70 seat RJs, Dash 8s, and Q400s.

Air Wisconsin could fly 900s for United under the "AWAC clause" in UAL ALPA small jet scope...if they ever will or not is certainly up for debate.

(Yes I know the Q400 is a Dash, but the RFP evidently broke them out separately...)

 

[WSurf]

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(Yes I know the Q400 is a Dash, but the RFP evidently broke them out separately...)

And it should be, totally different beast.

 

[XPOO]

What aircraft are up for RFP at United?

RFPs are out to cover Mesa if and when they go TU.

 

[meyers9163]

And 70 seat RJs, Dash 8s, and Q400s.

Air Wisconsin could fly 900s for United under the "AWAC clause" in UAL ALPA small jet scope...if they ever will or not is certainly up for debate.

(Yes I know the Q400 is a Dash, but the RFP evidently broke them out separately...)

The SCOPE of UAL would actually allow only AWAC to fly a plane of this size at the regional level huh? Didnt know this.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

RFPs are out to cover Mesa if and when they go TU.

Not so fast. Mesa posted $9.4 million profit in 2Q.

http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2008/06/30/daily1.html?ana=yfcpc

 

[BoilerUP]

The SCOPE of UAL would actually allow only AWAC to fly a plane of this size at the regional level huh? Didnt know this.

Yup.

1-K-22 “Small Jets" means (a) Jet Aircraft that are certificated in the United States of America for seventy (70) or fewer seats and a maximum permitted gross takeoff weight of less than eighty thousand (80,000) pounds and (b) up to eighteen (18) specific aircraft with certificated seating capacity in excess of seventy (70) seats operated by Feeder Carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp. ("AWAC"). These eighteen aircraft are identified as the "AWAC Quota"

Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US, N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW, N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE, N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR.

AWAC may replace any aircraft within the AWAC Quota with:
(i) any other BAe-146 or AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft, or
(ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds.

As I said, if UAL wants to take advantage of this, and if AWAC management makes an attractive proposal, both remain to be seen.

 

[gangdev]

Yup.



As I said, if UAL wants to take advantage of this, and if AWAC management makes an attractive proposal, both remain to be seen.

I think AWAC may be pushing for some changes, such as PBS to improve the proposal...I don't know if the pilot group is down with that. Trip touching is a nice feature we have now.

The agreement states 86 seats with less than 90,000 MTOW, I assume the RJ-900 falls into that weight category...are the 146 pay rates still on the current contract?

 

[BoilerUP]

I think AWAC may be pushing for some changes, such as PBS to improve the proposal...I don't know if the pilot group is down with that. Trip touching is a nice feature we have now.

I have a somewhat long winded post on the AWF about that very subject.

You can maintain vacation trip touching with PBS, ***if*** you negotiate language keeping it.

Giving up a few items (like training or integration trip touching) for PBS might gain you a few items, say strict paring and construction language, (both an absolute must for PBS) it may be something worth considering further.

IMO folks shouldn't cross their arms and say NO to PBS without letting the MEC and Scheduling Committee talk about it with the company and having the Negotiating Committee sit down and draw up a proposal...regardless of what they were told on a UAL jumpseat about it.

The agreement states 86 seats with less than 90,000 MTOW, I assume the RJ-900 falls into that weight category...are the 146 pay rates still on the current contract?

Yes, they are.

 

[Hobit]

PBS would not improve the 32 hour sits in MKE...WTF?!

I DONT want PBS-EVER!

The 'NEW Sheriff' should not be trusted with anything, much less PBS.
Besides, we got the 'F' word today. Read MB's response on AWF.

Not much 'Family Friendly' concern at AWAC.