AirWis gets UAL RJs, includes IAD...

[vc10]

Key word in here: AirWis will be given the opportunity to expand into IAD

PRESS RELEASE: United Air, Air Wisconsin Reach Agreement

Dow Jones International News Service via Dow Jones

United Reaches Agreement With Air Wisconsin on Amended United Express Contract


CHICAGO, July 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- United Airlines (OTC Bulletin Board:
UALAQ) today announced that it has reached a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)
with Air Wisconsin Airlines to operate select portions of the Company's United
Express Service. In addition to its existing fleet, the amended agreement also
provides Air Wisconsin the opportunity to place an additional 20 regional jets
in the United Express program in Washington, Chicago and Denver. The agreement
is for an 11-year term.

"Given our long-standing relationship with Air Wisconsin, I'm pleased we have
reached a Memorandum of Understanding that furthers this partnership," said Greg
Kaldahl, director-United Express at United Airlines. "Our amended agreement
will allow Air Wisconsin to continue operating under the United Express brand
while offering a first-rate level of service to United's customers."

The MOU is conditioned upon negotiation of final agreements as well as
approval by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. Air Wisconsin must also finalize
agreements on labor cost savings with its flight attendants, mechanics and
customer service personnel in order for the agreement to become effective.

In 2002, United's employees broke 35 company records and achieved the best
overall operational performance in the company's 77-year history. United
Airlines finished 2002 ranked No. 1 in the industry in domestic on-time
performance, according to the official U.S. Department of Transportation's Air
Travel Consumer report. United and United Express operate more than 3,300
flights each day on a route network that spans the globe. News releases and
other information about United can be found at the company's website at
www.united.com .

Worldwide Communications:
Media Relations Office: 847.700.5538
Evenings/Weekends: 847.700.4088

SOURCE United Airlines

/CONTACT: Worldwide Communications of United Airlines, Media Relations
Office, +1-847-700-5538, or Evenings-Weekends, +1-847-700-4088/
/Web site: http://www.united.com /
(UALAQ)

CO: United Airlines; Air Wisconsin Airlines
ST: Illinois, Wisconsin
IN: AIR LEI TRA OTC
SU: CON


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[Beer&Brauts]

Air Wisc. already operates a few flights for ual out of IAD.

 

[Rottweiller]

We have been told for the past couple of months to prepare to expand operations in IAD over and above the 4 cities we do already.

The only vague bit is about adding 20 RJ's. Not sure yet if this is on top of the 75 firm orders or takes us to 75 or are those 20 the remaining 70 seaters????????

Gotta love being with a private company - mushroom syndrome all over

 

[Beer&Brauts]

Actually, the press release read:

In addition to its existing fleet, the amended agreement also provides Air Wisconsin the opportunity to place an additional 20 regional jets in the United Express program in Washington, Chicago and Denver.

So in addition to the existing fleet of 40 ac, the total would become a whopping 60 RJs, the same number as mesa may operate.

Expansion in IAD would suck for those of us trying to get back to DEN, not to mention the ACA pilots!

 

[Rottweiller]

Expansion in IAD would suck for those of us trying to get back to DEN, not to mention the ACA pilots!

Back to DEN? Rumors are abound that DEN is going to be downsized with more flying to ORD and IAD. That will be great - a bunch of permanent whiney babies from DEN in ORD, bad enough when they are just passing through listening to "ORD this" & "ORD that".

 

[rightrudder]

DEN crews have a lower BS threshold than ORD crews since they are not regularly exposed to the ORD ops clusterf*ck in the alley.

That's all we need, more flights operating out of our most "challenged" station!

 

[Rottweiller]

Add:

1. Don't like more than 2 legs before an overnight.
2. Don't like how busy the ATC system is - would like to slow to 250 kts 200 miles out like in DEN.
3. Don't like numerous legs under 1 hour.
4. Can't adjust to the abundeance of O2 found in ORD

Yes we all know what a clusterf*#k Signature and all the traffic in the alley cause but remember the clock is running!

 

[Diesel]

anybody know the pay rates of air whacky compaired to aca? I'm just trying to figure out how low they bid to get the routes.

Air whisky will be aca in a few years. The pilots will then realize they are underpaid for what they do and united will drop them to for somebody cheaper. The cycle continues and it sucks.

 

[Beechnut]

Hi, my name is Steve and I'm a recovering Chicago pilot.

"Hi Steve"

I've been clean and in Denver for a year now, but from time to time I still have the urge to go to Chicago. My story is like so many others in this room. I had a family, a good job and a mortgage. I would do Chicago from time to time, you know, just on the weekends because I was junior. I knew at any time I could stop and just go to Appleton. But then I became a little more senior and started doing Chicago during the week too. I thought "No problem" I know what I'm doing and I can stop at any time. I even got so cocky as to pick up open time so that I could do as much Chicago as I could handle... but then my life really fell apart. My girlfriend knew I had a problem. When I was doing Chicago during the week, I would spend weekends recovering... And coming down was bad man... I was pulling my hair and waking up in the middle of the night screaming "WISCONSIN 583 IS GOING TO THE BOX!" or "OPS!!! IT'S 5 MINUTES AFTER DEPARTURE AND WE NEED PAPERWORK!!!" Finally she couldn't take it anymore. She left, took the kid (was okay, I don't think it was mine.) and told me to call when I got some help. THANK GOD FOR UNITED (ha ha ha never thought I'd say that.) They decided it was time for the 328 to go and that I was to go with it. I was in a placed in a three step training event that really turned my life around. My support group in Denver has been my strength and my guidance for a year now. I'm so lucky to have you guys, I don't think I can do it with out you!

Thanks for listening,

S.

(applause)

 

[walkthasky]

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Aint over till the fat lady sings...