Airborne TA

[UPSer]

Just stating the facts.

 

[wingnutt]

Just stating the facts.

perhaps...but when spoken with such pretentious overtones, it does makes one sound a bit "holier-than-thou"

 

[Smoking Man]

Or an A Hole.

Just stating the Facts.

 

[rudderdog]

Word!

 

[madison2]

Abexpilot,

Thanks for the Info, I use to fly for ABEX(Jan 27 99 hire date) and when I left the pay scales were for the captains:

dc9 $186/hr
dc8 $200/hr
767 $220/hr

if my memory servers me correctly, can you update these?

And for those thinking about ABEX if I had to do it all over again I would never have left! They are a good company, great pay, and great pilots.


Madison2

 

[GoABX]

John O.

Good to see you are still flying at AA. If you still have an old copy of your old contract take the last column and multiply it by 4.5% and by 4% and you will have the current rates.

In the next 1-3 years we'll see whether we will be the next FDX/UPS or the next Emery.

 

[wingnutt]

And for those thinking about ABEX if I had to do it all over again I would never have left!

yeowsa...are you serious? youd pick Abex over AA? just curious if youd care to expound on that...if not, no biggie

 

[madison2]

wingnutt,

I flew for ABX for about two years, second year I made about 80K, and was quite happy there flying the dc9. ABX has incredible work rules. Here is a sampling

1. Jumpseats can be booked 45 days in advance, first come first serve.
2. Per diem is payed by the day $45 not by the hour.
3. You don't normally fly on weekends or holidays. I was home every christmas.
4. They have approximatedly 900 pilots with good upgrade times.
5. Pay, the year I left the top paid 767 captain made $356,000.
6. They have unlimited overtime and can sell back their vacation.
7. You can bid reserve two months in a row and get four weeks off, if you want.
8. They have a vacation slide meaning you slide your vacation days to work days. This means for one week of vacation you get three weeks off. Two weeks vacation 5 weeks off. If bid properly.
9. retirement, they have a A fund 50% of your high 5 of your last ten years. For 25 year employees this equates to 130K to 150k a year from the A fund. They also match on their 401K 35cents to 55 cents on the first 6 percent of pay put into the 401K. So if you put in $10000 they match between 3500 to 5500each year.
10. Other benifits were as good as My curent company.
11. They also have something called a split trade. A split trade is for example your going to fly the jet back to wilmington ohio on your last leg and the guy on your jumseat is commuting in to work, he can fly the jet in for you and you can stay at home with no change in pay. Your are expected to return the favor in the future.
12. Trip trading can be done upto 1 hour prior to departure. So say you are sitting and waiting for the sort. you can get together with friends and trip trade around so every flies to their home instead of a hotel for the day.
13. Schedulers were really Cool. I had Wendy and she would watch out for us. Its nice to work with people who care.


Wingnutt, I want to make it clear I am not comparing the two companies I like AA alot but ABX is a darn good company.

As for AA they have 2135 pilots on furlough or announced, they plan on 1000 more. I will be in that 1000 more if they happen.


Madison 2

 

[Eaglepuke]

Anyone have any info on what the new first year pay will be?

 

[Bitter]

out.