AE CRJ to Replace AA Fokker?? Rumor??

[Otto Coarsen]

Gosh I hope this isn't true. I have a buddy that just started ground school at AE. Last night he called me and told me some crazy story which I had a really hard time believing, because I hadn't heard ANYTHING like it before. He went to the extent of saying it was a "for sure done deal" type of thing too.

He said ALL of the AE CRJs were getting moved to the mainline ticket to be flown by active (not furloughed) mainline pilots. He said they were going to replace the fokkers.

Anyone know anything?

 

[jetexas]

Well not to slam on your buddy, but rumors here are a dime a dozen. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see" is the motto around here.

The best way to find out what the company will/has done is to read the newspaper (specifically, the Dallas Morning News). That's usually how employees here find out about things.

 

[CF34-3B1]

Wonder what the AA guys would get for hourly rates on a CR7.

I remember seeing some rates they had published for the CR2 a few years ago, would love to see what they got now that another "mainline" is flying "RJs" for $58/hr.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

Well not to slam on your buddy, but rumors here are a dime a dozen. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see" is the motto around here.

The best way to find out what the company will/has done is to read the newspaper (specifically, the Dallas Morning News). That's usually how employees here find out about things.

No worries, he's not the most reliable source of data, and that's why I didn't buy it...

He IS a good wingman and drinking buddy though... aside from the lack of money thing.... I know he reads this forum... Nice...

 

[CancelIFR1200]

My ole' Man is an AA guy, and it appears as this is somewhat of a true rumor. As part of the concessions that they took, they also got rights to the 70 seat flying. In a way AA owns the 70 seat flying, but this came with a stipulation that APA and AMR had to agree to wages on the 70 seat before AA would start flying them. In a way Yes, AA does own the 70 seat flying, but until they come to an agreement, AE will be flying them. This is the way it was explained to me!

 

[AAsRedHeadedbro]

A while back (a year ago) the AA pilots Union and the company agreed that they'd discuss bringing the CRJ's over to the mainline side of the house. However, AMR's caveat was that the ENTIRE operation would need to be cost neutral with AE's current costs. What this means is that the pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, rampers and agents, dispatchers, etc. would all need to work under AE work rules and pay rates. The flight attendants and other work groups already told the pilots that it would never happen. Basically, end of discussion as far as AMR is concerned.

Besides, I don't think we have enough CRJ's to replace the F-100 fleet over there.

 

[AAsRedHeadedbro]

Not quite so simple. AMR and APA only agreed that they'd discuss for some limited time the concept of bringing over the jets to AA. I think it was a year. The also agreed that the cost of the operation would ned to be "cost neutral". It also stated that if they could not come to an agreement then the CRJ's would stay over on the AE side of the fence.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

Not quite so simple. AMR and APA only agreed that they'd discuss for some limited time the concept of bringing over the jets to AA. I think it was a year. The also agreed that the cost of the operation would ned to be "cost neutral". It also stated that if they could not come to an agreement then the CRJ's would stay over on the AE side of the fence.

Whoops, looks like someone forgot to sign out in the AE crew room!

Oops..

 

[eglpilot]

APA and AMR will NEVER come to terms to operate the 70 seater cheaper than AE. It Will NEVER happen I repeat NEVER...

 

[amcnd]

The big problem wiht this is that when AA starts hiring again, all pilots would start at $20 a hour. That did not sit well with the APA. And that it would hurt the pilot group in the long run for just 25 aircraft. It would also set the bar low if AA were to replace the hole MD-80 fleet with CRJ's. Its a rolling snow ball the APA is'nt willing to take on. the one year time frame is almost up and I dont expect AA to ever fly the CRJ.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

Well one thing's for sure.... If that happens, you'll see a whole lot less Mesabashing..

 

[amcnd]

We should also add that the MD-80 has been replacing Eagle flights to IND, CMH, XNA and other citys. The loss of the F-100's are beeing replaced by 80 and RJ not just the CRJ-700. Overall Eagle is not replacing AA we are building up citys for them to take over when loads warent. It may not happen as fast as the AA pilots would like. But in the longrun we contribute more to there bottem line then they think.