ABX purchase Rumor

[Classicdriver]

I think ABX's management would intergrate the operations. I believe the pilot's contract at ABX would make that necessay. The two operations would be fenced while the intergration of the operations, to include the seniority lists took place. My guess is the pilots at the purchased carrier would be frozen/grandfathered into their seats for a period of time. I don't know how an integration of seniority lists would be worked out, but I doubt they would simply be stapled to the bottom of the list ala AA/TWA. Once the fencing period and intergration of lists was complete then seniority would prevail with respect to upgrades, furloughs, bumping rights etc.

Just a quick note. When Polar was purchased by Mike Chowdry (Atlas Founder), the plan was to transfer the landing rights and some of the planes to the holding company and then liquidate the rest. Chowdry killed himself in his L-39 and the replacments couldn't pull off the transfer. The Japan rights are tied to the Polar Certificate. The China ones aren't as tough.

Bottom line, if a deal goes thru with Polar, the Polar certificate must remain active to excercise the Japan rights.

As for merging, good luck. Just take a look at some of the Atlas-Polar hate threads to see what you'll have to deal with.

 

[cfire]

You know cfire....YOU are like "HERPES"....There is no possible way of getting rid of you, is there...Save you'r POLITICALLY motivated BS for you'r peers. No-one here gives a CRAP about You'r oppinions or predictions...Have a nice life, LOOSER!!

You are a shining example of the Polar group. Your what everyone thinks of in conversation when Polar is mentioned in ALPA Herndon and in the industry. Also why it has been so hard to sell you off.

Kind of a shame. I've worked with a number of your committee members that were not under the spell of Bobb Henderson and have broken free of his cult. Pretty impressive folks unlike you.

BTW. I'm not a literary genius, but I think instead of LOOSER I think you ment LOSER . Of which, your are a fine example of.

Y-F-D-A$$


"The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48"
Loser Los"er, n.
1. One who loses; as, the loser pays for a round of beer.
--South.
1913 Webster

2. A person who is habitually unsuccessful at some endeavor,
such as employment or personal relationships. slang
PJC

3. A plan or strategy unlikely to succeed. slang
PJC

 

[GoABX]

I don't know how an integration of seniority lists would be worked out, but I doubt they would simply be stapled to the bottom of the list...

Eric,

If it weren't a staple, it would be a pretty shallow integration based on career expectation and how their contract was amalgamated into ours. It would still be a decent deal for most of them. WHY?

ABX Them
Pay
DC-9 FO (7yr) = 747 CAPT (7yrs-Polar) / (5 yr - Atlas)
Retirement
Yes + 401K No + 401K

 

[erichartmann]

Eric,

If it weren't a staple, it would be a pretty shallow integration based on career expectation and how their contract was amalgamated into ours. It would still be a decent deal for most of them. WHY?

ABX Them
Pay
DC-9 FO (7yr) = 747 CAPT (7yrs-Polar) / (5 yr - Atlas)
Retirement
Yes + 401K No + 401K

No doubt. I would not expect a straight seniority mesh. I would expect payscales and seniority to be taken into account. Bear in mind our management is likely to get involved with this as well. We will need to consider that we more than likely want management to intergrate the operations. This will affect the payscales. If it is Polar, the Polar guys are likely to get huge pay raises (relatively) even with relatively little seniority, just by virture of being on the Whale.

 

[B-atch]

You are a shining example of the Polar group. Your what everyone thinks of in conversation when Polar is mentioned in ALPA Herndon and in the industry. Also why it has been so hard to sell you off.

Kind of a shame. I've worked with a number of your committee members that were not under the spell of Bobb Henderson and have broken free of his cult. Pretty impressive folks unlike you.

BTW. I'm not a literary genius, but I think instead of LOOSER I think you ment LOSER . Of which, your are a fine example of.

Y-F-D-A$$


"The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48"
Loser Los"er, n.
1. One who loses; as, the loser pays for a round of beer.
--South.
1913 Webster

2. A person who is habitually unsuccessful at some endeavor,
such as employment or personal relationships. slang
PJC

3. A plan or strategy unlikely to succeed. slang
PJC

You know cfire....If you'r brain were as large as you'r mouth, you could really be a threat... The truth is, you are all talk and no intellect. Who are you going to blame for you'r PATHETIC existence if Polar ever goes away...Have you given this some thought.....I doubt....

 

[cfire]

You know cfire....If you'r brain were as large as you'r mouth, you could really be a threat... The truth is, you are all talk and no intellect. Who are you going to blame for you'r PATHETIC existence if Polar ever goes away...Have you given this some thought.....I doubt....

On that note and all of your previous posts here and on other threads, I rest my case. I'm sure most here are more sober than you and can read the posts without double vision.

Obviously McDonald's rejected your application after your being furloughed from Polar.

On the possibility that the ABX guys have not seen it, here is the Polar Behaving Badly Site so they can evaluate what they will have to deal with.

Judging from Alleg/Moh and how AA/TWA went, you will be enjoying unemployment. If not so already, in the near future. If what I have heard is true, it won't be ABX but someone within the fold dictating your lack of future.

Time will tell in the end.

 

[B-atch]

Judging from Alleg/Moh and how AA/TWA went, you will be enjoying unemployment. If not so already, in the near future. If what I have heard is true, it won't be ABX but someone within the fold dictating your lack of future.

Time will tell in the end.

It's nice to see how SYMPATHETIC you feel towards a fellow pilot loosing his/her livelihood. You trully are pathetic. Keep posting you'r views, so you can continue to show you'r true COLORS.

PS. Unlike YOU, some of us have other marketable skills. If having to share the cockpit with the likes of you is what we can look forward to, then Mcdonals might not sound like such a bad deal... G.F.Y.S.A.H...

 

[johnnyb]

Sounds like the formula I have talked about on other threads here on the Atlas - Polar hate threads. Maybe those previous rumors may not be so untrue as everyone thought. Sad thing is, I have heard more about some rather negative outcomes for the pilot group such as Polar if it happens since they are in merger talks with Atlas. I'll save that for later if anything comes of this with Polar.

You're falling for the old rope-a-dope. The right hook coming from the blind side is keeping the AAWH pilot groups under the current CBA for the next 10 years.

 

[Classicdriver]

PS. Unlike YOU, some of us have other marketable skills. If having to share the cockpit with the likes of you is what we can look forward to, then Mcdonals might not sound like such a bad deal... G.F.Y.S.A.H...

B-atch, you blew this one. Cfire has more money making things going on than you can shake a stick at. Not sure why he's stuck around here, maybe the love of flying....or just irritating you. BTW, would "Mcdonals" be an example of your marketable skills?