ABX Domicile in Asia

[Box-Hauler]

Any one want to confirm the rumor that ABX is going to open an Asian Domicile.

 

[MJH767]

check the member's only hotline

 

[GoABX]

Yes. Two proffers for 8&8 for a total of 32. Probably a negotiating ploy.

 

[inplaneview]

Yes. Two proffers for 8&8 for a total of 32. Probably a negotiating ploy.

32 what? Current and qualified in the 767? Or if no one bids, does it go to bottom of seniority list with a forced upgrade to the 767 and move to Asia? Certainly could have a huge impact on who bids what.

 

[Box-Hauler]

This is a sure way to doom the Asian adventure.

Unlike the MIA domicile I doubt they will get 32 happy go lucky guys living where they are based making the operation run. One or 2 people with an axe to grind can bring this operation to a standstill, imagine 32 pi$$ed off people. I would be amazed if the airplane ever left.

I say let them try and staff and operate a domicile in Japan. The start up cost plus all the other associated cost (health care, moving expenses, house hunting trips, etc.) will kill them. We will need a crew room with all associated stuff (staffing, computers, mailboxes).

If they go ahead with this is it not a violation of the CBA. Does this mean no more OPF again......... When will they learn.

P.S. I guess it takes the board quite a bit of time to review a buyout offer, no response to Astars offer yet.

 

[abxaviator]

"In the event there are insufficient bids for a posted vavcancy from crewmembers on the seiority list, the Company may fill such vacancy by assignment of crewmembers in reverse order of seniority, or by hiring new crewmembers."

This is how it SHOULD be handled, but just the fact that this has been posted at this time and in this manner is a display of what the Company thinks of the contract.

 

[abxaviator]

Initially, MIA was staffed largely through junior assignment and the crews were the heartbeat of the operation covering for all manner of ineptitude to "git r done". I do not see such a spirit of cooperation happening should this abomination occur.

Curious they would post this now with 45 days left in the initial phase of the contract which allows either side to cancel.

 

[LarryinTN]

What are the class dates?

 

[Clipperskip]

Class dates

What are the class dates?

Dear LJ,

The dates are July 30th. to be completed approx. September 15th and August 27th to be completed approx. October 15th. The word is now for the third A/C to go to KIX in Oct. and the fourth and fifth A/C to go by the end of the year. How's RIV LJ? Miss not seeing you around the Hoot.

 

[LarryinTN]

I don't miss not seeing the hoot.

They can't open a foreign domicile without negotiating the terms--we've already served them with a section 6 opener on that when they brought it up last time. Negotiating the foreign domicile rules would take longer than finishing the contact.

What did Hete's letter say regarding the terms for the foreign domicile? Who's dumb enough to bid a foreign domicile without any rules in place for it? Probably not too many...

Looks like they're trying to stagger the ground schools in between the currently scheduled ground schools so they must be pretty confident that they'll be able to do a lot of sim training in DEN, or elsewhere.