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Bear in mind we have a 65/hr guarantee versus most having 72-78. So our hourly rates seem higher than they feel on the 1st and 15th.

By the same token we have DC-9 captains who fly literally every day and make $300-325K/yr. The good side is most (DC-9/8) lines have only 28-50 hours so if you want slack off you can do that too.
 
Any new news on the DHL/ABX front?

Has the ACMI thing started yet?

Are the 30 (give or take a few) still furloughed?

Contract?

My interview was CX'd in the summer of 2001, will I ever get a chance to interview? For thoes who had the interview CX'd will they call or do we start all over from scratch? I now the las t 2 ?'s are subjective but I just thought I 'd toss it out there incase anyone knows somebody in the HR dept.

Thanks
 
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Hey guys...noticed the DC-8 Flight engineer rates are higher than the DC-9 First Officer rates. Is this cause the FE positions run senior...due to guys taking it when they turn 60? I know DHL (Astar) is a bit like that. Anyone know? Just seemed strange.
 
<<DC-8 Flight engineer rates are higher than the DC-9 First Officer rates>>

Yes quite interesting isn't. Upgrading PFEs can also bump pilots out of a job too. There has been a jr pilot / PFE squabble for 2+ yrs. The union leadership is senior and very pro-PFE. But I'll try to refrain from airing dirty laundry.

We have a 65/hr per month guarantee or 4.5 hours per day. To compensate for months with too many weeks, we are paid for 30 hrs every two weeks. Or 780 hours per year.

Retirement is 2% X yrs (25max) X Avg of high 5.
No B fund
401K sucks, match is only 2+%.

The first 4 of our planes are supposed to be painted in yellow DHL livery in April.

No news on the DHL/Astar rumor front. Been very quiet lately. DHL has been working on integrating the 2 companies. This usually takes 6-12 months for companies of this size.

LearL, sorry your interview was can'x. When they are getting ready to recall the last batch, I'd bug HR every month. Right now the official number is still 30 out, but several will not come back.

Earlier when I said slack off, let me clarify that we are still gone 15/16 days a month...unless you can hold your home city, then you are home 4-6 of those work days.

This is one of the few companies that you can bag 2,3 or 4 weeks off without taking vacation, of course you will pay for it on both ends.

It's a pretty **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** good company and I'm happy with it for the most part. We'll probably never get FedEx or UPS money, but we should die broke either. After 4 years of stagnation we need to start kicking it in the pants.
 
GoABX

WOW 300k+/year...pretty amazing
Is it all extra flying?

I know about 10 guys that could use 1/10th of that to feed their family right now (1st year: 27K)...

...they have been on furlough from ABX for 3 years....

It's not fair to put all the ABX guys in the same bag. You wouldn't happen to have a list of "frequent flyers, brotherhood icons" by any chance. So that we could all repay the favor 1 day.

Some scabs were labeled for the rest of their lives because they felt that their survival depended on returning to work.

Those guys just want more honey and welcome the shortage (furlough) of pilots. A nonsense from the Co.'s point of view having to pay 10x what a first year guy would cost.

Good luck to you

My apologies to the board members for this bitter post.
 
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