About to take ATP checkride at "ATP"

[Sol Rosenberg]

Have you or any pilot you know ever failed a checkride at ATP (Airline Transport Professionals)? I'm taking my ATP with them in a few weeks and was just wonding what their pass/fail rate is or if anybody has any istories or advice about them.

thx in advance.
sol

 

[Detroitpilot]

I did my ATP with them in Chicago (ARR) a couple years back, I had a great instructor, which helps, but basically we flew the checkride profile every time we went out, so there should be no suprises. I rode along in the back on any flight I could also. If I remember right, everyone who went before me while I was there passed. The oral was easier than I expected. ATC was always difficult on issuing multiple practice inst. app, they needed some sweet talking. I opted for the 10 hour course as I was new to the Seminole at the time. Another thing that really helped is I had tons of Garmin experience, so I knew what I wanted displayed at what times and the quickest way to program it. Wouldn't recommend the 3 (5?) hour course unless you're multi (and instrument) current.

Good Luck!

 

[F-eagle]

I failed my ATP with ATP's. I had 2500 hours, with 1000 hours of 121 turbine, 500 hours of jet time, and three long term 121 training events that went flawlessly, which probably worked against me. The reason I think I failed was because I rushed through the training, I flew for about 5-6 hours before the ride. I was also tired, and burned out, I had just flown a 6 day trip, then went for the ATP, that was stupid. I failed doing an intersection hold. I mixed up the freq's on my #1 and #2 navs. Hey, what can I say, that single pilot crap is hard after working the airline environment for 3 years. My attitude probably didn't help much either, I was pissed off that I was shelling out all that money to atp's, and $350 to that lard ass know it all examiner. I deserved to fail.

 

[Torpid]

F-eagle

WHY? Why are you putting yourself through all that misery and expense? If you ever plan on upgrading at your airline, all you need is your ATP written. When you take your type ride, that becomes your ATP ticket. I'm sure you already know this so maybe this info will be more helpful to other pilots wanting to go to a regional airline.

 

[Detroitpilot]

The reason I did mine before any type rides is that I thought it might make me a bit more marketable, or competetive in a post 9/11 aviation world. Has it? I don't know. I wasn't working at the time and needed the next challenge. I know the day I earned it was one of the highpoints of my aviation career thus far.

 

[F-eagle]

I put myself through it because I had friends that where going to walk my stuff into Netjets, and there mins call for an ATP. The day I got my ATP Netjets stopped accepting aps. Oh well, at least I tried.

 

[scoot]

Hi Sol,
I took my ATP ride there and was happy with the decision. The ATP guy was tough, you have to work hard. My DE was a great guy and a Capt. from a major Airlines. I did mess up on the unfamiliar GPS, but was given a second chance that day to try that again and passed. I was good on the memory items, that helped. Make up acronyms for emergency checklists, and restarting engines,etc. so you don't to have to rely on the checklist first to perform items.
It seems to me that if you show ability to safely control the plane and make various approaches during engine failures you'll do fine. My oral was easy. Good luck to you! It's a good challenge worth a lot.