A.S.A. skippy or le break

[bacardi]

So guys who is the greater of the two evils.

they are both huge tools but which of the two are we worse off as the pres?

 

[HarryParatestes]

They both suck. Skippy is speading his wealth of mis-management knowledge all over the Bahamas. Bryan is sitting in the ASA G.O. laughing his ass off adding up his bonus.

 

[Tomct]

They both SUCK!!!!!!!

 

[Crash Pad]

I think The Who had a song about this.

 

[ASARJMan]

So guys who is the greater of the two evils.

they are both huge tools but which of the two are we worse off as the pres?

They both blow because they're DAL retreads who helped destroy Delta. Now they're over here, along with many other ex-DAL (like KingTutty) who are destroying this airline, and rapidly I might add. That's why I....
VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[ASA]

They both blow because they're DAL retreads who helped destroy Delta.

Very true. Both these guys learned it the Delta way. Bureaucracy, arrogance, ignorance, throw money at a problem and hope it will go away, management keeping their distance from the lowly front-line employees.

Barnette and LaBrecque exemplify this attitude. It's why ASA runs the way it does while LaBrecque sits in his office. True statistic: 8/10 ASA employees cannot recognize LaBrecque in a lineup.

 

[79%N1]

The ASA way is to manage by meetings and reports. They sit there in their offices, and just read the reports, and that is it. They don't observe, listen, talk, or witness! This is NOT an effective style of management, and one not taken by execs at large companies. Successful leaders visit the front lines, observe what is and is not working. The most successful airline managers have proven effective with that more hands on style. ASA will never change/improve until a total overhaul from the top happens.

 

[homerjdispatch]

They both blow because they're DAL retreads who helped destroy Delta. Now they're over here, along with many other ex-DAL (like KingTutty) who are destroying this airline, and rapidly I might add. That's why I....
VOTED IN FAVOR!

I always thought it was the Union that destroyed Delta....Man i must have been wrong!

 

[ASARJMan]

I always thought it was the Union that destroyed Delta....Man i must have been wrong!

And, you blow too! VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[ASARJMan]

The ASA way is to manage by meetings and reports. They sit there in their offices, and just read the reports, and that is it. They don't observe, listen, talk, or witness! This is NOT an effective style of management, and one not taken by execs at large companies. Successful leaders visit the front lines, observe what is and is not working. The most successful airline managers have proven effective with that more hands on style. ASA will never change/improve until a total overhaul from the top happens.

Again, another excellent post by 79%! Man you're on a roll dude! So true though. Last contract when Paquette (sp) was here, he spent more time out here on the airport then he did at the G/O. He recognized that problems were being covered up, and/or blamed on the pilots. Things changed for a short time after our contract was ratified. But, then DAL bought us, and it slowly slip back to where it was, and is now under these great ex-Delta managers. More ex-DAL managers have been hired as VPs at ASA that it blows the mind. Only negative about Paquette is he hired Thibedodo as both came from TWA. So yes, I VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[homerjdispatch]

And, you blow too! VOTED IN FAVOR!

Wow,

Did you learn that in Kindergarten?

 

[ASA]

I always thought it was the Union that destroyed Delta....Man i must have been wrong!

You are correct. Leo Mullin was a great leader and a great man. He led the company beautifully in his decisions, and Delta would have continued to be profitable to this day if it hadn't been for that darned union. You are one smart cookie.

 

[ASARJMan]

Wow,

Did you learn that in Kindergarten?

Nah, some dispatcher taught me that. You looking for a job yet? Because, I VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Nah, some dispatcher taught me that. You looking for a job yet? Because, I VOTED IN FAVOR!

Maybe you should be looking for the job...SkyWest MAY hire you after they shutdown ASA, because of the strike. I doubt it though. SkyWest looks for pilots that actually know how to think for themselves.

Too bad you feel you need to use childish remarks, instead of thought out replies.

OH WELL, TO EACH HIS OWN!

Homer

BTW, I have a good job. I dont need to be looking for anything.

 

[ASARJMan]

Maybe you should be looking for the job...SkyWest MAY hire you after they shutdown ASA, because of the strike. I doubt it though. SkyWest looks for pilots that actually know how to think for themselves.Too bad you feel you need to use childish remarks, instead of thought out replies. OH WELL, TO EACH HIS OWN!
Homer BTW, I have a good job. I dont need to be looking for anything.

Ooh, stop it! You're hurting my feelings you dispatcher beast! Typical dispatcher who thinks he's flying and responsible for the plane. Nope, if we walk and ASA goes bye-bye, I'm outa the airline business. You will be too because SKYW won't be able to survive the loss of ASA. Maybe CHIT or MESA will hire you. Besides, I VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[ASARJMan]

I always thought it was the Union that destroyed Delta....Man i must have been wrong!

Yes, again btw Homo, I mean Homer, sorry. So anyways, there I was, on the computer, and I decided to VOTE IN FAVOR!

 

[ASARJMan]

Homer, why aren't you over on the dispatcher board bragging how you tell those pilots what to do and all? You know, like how impotent, I mean how important you are in your own mind. Well, I VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[homerjdispatch]

ASARJMAN,

With all the sexual references you keep making, Im beginning to think you may have a problem. Insecure in your manhood, maybe? You know, a good doctor may be able to help you. Or maybe a certian "male enhancement" drug, that is always advertised on TV. http://www.tritonhealth.com/enzite.php

 

[ASARJMan]

ASARJMAN,

With all the sexual references you keep making, Im beginning to think you may have a problem. Insecure in your manhood, maybe? You know, a good doctor may be able to help you.

Hey, you still lurking here on the real pilots board Homo? Oh, alright, you can stay and try to play. Just try to keep up will you. What makes you think I'm a male Homoboy? You know there are female pilots in the world too. VOTED IN FAVOR so maybe Homer will be outa a job when SKYW lays off.

 

[ASARJMan]

Oh yeah, I see you Homer. Can't wait for my reply huh? You dispatching or just on the internet playing when you should be getting some real info for your pilots? VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Hey, you still lurking here on the real pilots board Homo? Oh, alright, you can stay and try to play. Just try to keep up will you. What makes you think I'm a male Homoboy? You know there are female pilots in the world too. VOTED IN FAVOR so maybe Homer will be outa a job when SKYW lays off.

Ummm... your username is ASARJman!


Now Im confused...are you a female?

If so, why do you keep telling everyone to blow you?

oh wait, Maybe your that pilot that had the sex change?

This is just so confusing!

 

[ASARJMan]

This is just so confusing!

Sorry Homer, it's not all that confusing at all. But then again, you're a dispatcher, and I'm a pilot, so perhaps you are confused. Gotta go Homo, enjoyed sparing with you. I'm sure we'll do it again. VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Sorry Homer, it's not all that confusing at all. But then again, you're a dispatcher, and I'm a pilot, so perhaps you are confused. Gotta go Homo, enjoyed sparing with you. I'm sure we'll do it again. VOTED IN FAVOR!

C U next time. J/K

Have a good day, and Fly Safe!

 

[ASARJMan]

here ya go homer, so info for you:

We are receiving feedback that the organizational drive at SkyWest is
progressing well as reported by SkyWest Pilots and our own Organizers
at ALPA National. Currently ALPA is collecting union drive cards and
conducting a number of other, informational events such as town hall meetings. The next event is a two day town hall meeting.

VOTED IN FAVOR

 

[ASA]

C U next time. J/K

Have a good day, and Fly Safe!

Sir, I know that you are simply trying to stir up people. But if you do indeed believe that unions bring down companies, you have not thought enough about how companies work.

A leader of a company with a unionized workforce has three groups to deal with: Management, Employees (Union), and Customers. His job is to get Management and Employees on the same side, working for the customer. Any company in which people refer to "Union Guys" vs "Company Guys" is destined to fail.

If you think this is not achievable, you really need to look at various unionized companies and watch how they perform brilliantly. Delta management before Ron Allen did just that. A great leader will galvanize his people, union or not. Unions are made up of employees. Satisfied, appreciated, fairly-compensated employees will act reasonably within their union, and you will see a company that operates essentially like a nonunion company.

The problem with Delta is that Allen and Mullin themselves were not on the side of their own company or customers. Allen was an incompetent leader, and Mullin was busy raiding whatever he could from the company and allowed the unions to the same.

I am not anti-management. If you have several hours, I will describe some of the greatest minds in the business. It just so happens, and this is well-documented from some great business analyists, that airline management historically has been poor. This is really a shame, when you think about it, because of all the industries out there, airlines can be really fun to manage as well as to work for as front-line employees. You would have hoped the bad managers would choose to work in less glamorous industries, like Plastics. A real shame.

There are a few notable exceptions, and these leaders have inspired their employees--unionized and nonunionized--and made their airlines great.

 

[BIGGOAT]

Soon ASA will mean "A Shrinking Airline"?

 

[BigPappa]

Soon Skywest will be bankrupt because they can't afford the payments on their $425 mil "invesment", and MESA will be laughing their rear of as they buy Skywest, Inc for pennies on the dollar.

 

[wms]

If homer's who I think he is, he's in a union. The same as the DAL dispatchers. But why do my roommates who are DAL dispatchers make more than ASA captains, and our dispatchers are under paid for doing an even harder job? See how good the relationship is between ASA mgmt and the dispatchers when their contract is due and the company starts trying to gouge them.

 

[wms]

Soon Skywest will be bankrupt because they can't afford the payments on their $425 mil "invesment", and MESA will be laughing their rear of as they buy Skywest, Inc for pennies on the dollar.

SKW paid cash for ASA. They bought it for pennies on the dollar. Pennies on the dollar, by the way, is what JO pays his pilots.

 

[rumrnr78]

Good post WMS! "You screwed me again Atkin" LOL