91/135 duty regs

[100LL... Again!]

7B2-

I understand your point, but remember, once the flight is dispatches with no revenue pax or cargo on board, you no longer fall under the scope of the 135 reg. You COULD go under 135, but there is no need to.

You are no longer flying in common carriage. You are the company's 'corporate pilot', so to speak, and fall under part 91.

It cannot be considered rest time, however, because the company is requiring you to do it.

This was the way we did it at both of my airlines.

(although contract language is often written to severely restrict the use of this option).

 

[Deftone45075]

There is Duty, Rest, and then there is time that counts as neither.

If you are performing a function in relation to your assigned duty position (i.e. your a second in command and obtaining a weather briefing for a flight) it is DUTY time.

If you are performing a function not related to your duty assignment but is required by your company (i.e. pilot meeting, training) then you are NOT on duty, however, you are also NOT on Rest since:

Rest is a period of time free from ALL duties required by the company.

A part 91 leg is Not Duty time. Duty time only applies when operating under 135, however it can cause problems. If you are flying a 91 leg before a 135 trip, and the 135 portion will require 14 hours of your time, then you cannot fly the 91 leg. Always look at duty/rest time from the completion of the assignment.

When you complete the 14 hours of 135 duty and count back 24, you wouldn't have 10 hours of rest if you flew the 91 leg.

Conversely, if you were on duty under 135 for 14 hours you can duty off and continue flying 91 for as long as you like, as long as the time spent operating 91 does not count toward your rest. You will still need 10 hours rest after completing the 91 flying before you can duty back on under 135.

The 10 hours Flight time limitation applies to ANY commercial flying.

If you are compensated for flying your Boss then it does get totaled in, weather it is 91 or not doesn't factor. If he invited you to fly his personal airplane on your day off, that would not count toward the 10 hours (or 8 for single pilot) Flight TIme limitation.

 

[7B2]

Deftone45075,

Very well said,
case closed as far as I'm concerned.