3 ASA Jets collide in hangar!!

[clr4theapch]

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=8711634

Three planes collide on the ground at Baton Rouge Metro Airport

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Source: Airliners.net

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BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - A three-plane ground crash at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport could have become an explosive disaster.
It happened at the new regional maintenance hangar for Atlantic Southeast Airlines, or ASA.
The total value to the three CRJ commuter jets is $100 million and it looks like the most expensive one is a total loss.
The entire incident reportedly took five seconds.
A young mechanic pressed a starter switch to slowly spin the compressor blades for cleaning.
Instead, her action sent the engine to immediate takeoff power, hurling the fragile aircraft at 90 degree angles.
Witnesses say it's a wonder the entire hangar wasn't sent up in flames, not to mention injury or death to the 14 ASA mechanics and cleaning crew members working inside.

 

[Tarzan]

Pretty old news. They haven't written of any of the airplanes yet, the last I heard from the CP.

 

[Max Q]

OMFG!!11!1!1111*fart*

-Brett

 

[RobCat]

Is it me or does this sound alittle fishy... Hitting only the starter button only drymotors the engine correct. I think some other things like arm the ignition and introducing fuel to the engine had to happen...

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Pretty old news. They haven't written of any of the airplanes yet, the last I heard from the CP.

If the accident is determined to be a result of not following company procedures, I doubt the insurance company is going to cut a check at all.

 

[Max Q]

Is it me or does this sound alittle fishy... Hitting only the starter button only drymotors the engine correct. I think some other things like arm the ignition and introducing fuel to the engine had to happen...

Some dork posted a full fricken narrative on the internet with photos. Thrust levers were advanced (among other things). It's all already been discussed in another thread...

-Brett

 

[TOOL CRIB]

That's a crack new reporting team there in BTR... just reporting the breaking news that happened 2-3 weeks ago.

 

[Max Q]

Plus, they use airliners.net as their source. You know, if it's on the internet (especially airliners.net) it has to be true.

-Brett

 

[SilverandSore]

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=8711634

Three planes collide on the ground at Baton Rouge Metro Airport

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Source: Airliners.net

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BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - A three-plane ground crash at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport could have become an explosive disaster.
It happened at the new regional maintenance hangar for Atlantic Southeast Airlines, or ASA.
The total value to the three CRJ commuter jets is $100 million and it looks like the most expensive one is a total loss.
The entire incident reportedly took five seconds.
A young mechanic pressed a starter switch to slowly spin the compressor blades for cleaning.
Instead, her action sent the engine to immediate takeoff power, hurling the fragile aircraft at 90 degree angles.
Witnesses say it's a wonder the entire hangar wasn't sent up in flames, not to mention injury or death to the 14 ASA mechanics and cleaning crew members working inside.

Welcome to July 7th...

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114501

 

[clr4theapch]

Hey Sorry guys,

It was the first I heard of it, it was posted on an airline news web site only this morning... I did not see anything posted on this on FI over the past few days.. had I known this was old news...

 

[Tarzan]

Is it me or does this sound alittle fishy... Hitting only the starter button only drymotors the engine correct?I think some other things like arm the ignition and introducing fuel to the engine had to happen...

No, this statement is not correct. Ever hear of a FADEC with the thrust levers out of the shut off detent?

 

[McNugget]

Mesa SUCKS

 

[flyingfool]

No, this statement is not correct. Ever hear of a FADEC with the thrust levers out of the shut off detent?

The procedure to motor wash is to have them out of the detent and full forward. She was new and I believe that is only the procedure for the 200 not the 700 that she was in.

 

[Long Time Gone]

Welcome home from your hospital stay. How's the amnesia??? I saw your previous post, no biggie. Jokes aside.....

Like most accidents, multiple factors are involved in order for it to happen. A mech in ATL who had been through a few scream sessions due to this issue told me that there were quite a few hints before it happened. The brakes on 706 had recently been replaced, hence no pressure in the accumulators. The Thrust Lever quadrant had been removed and replaced, hence the thrusts levers (or lever) being in the take off position for easier access to the screws. Let's not forget that the steering linkage was also disconnected and that the mechanic responsible never sat down in either seat. She simply stood in between both seats and hit the start button. As the engine lit off, she was only along for the ride as she was thrown into the back of the cabin.

Aircraft 975 had just been pulled in front of 706 for work. After light off, 706 ricocheted off of 975 and dragged it into the hanger. A portion of the left wing of 975 was torn off by the air-stair door of 706 (which was also torn off), with the winglet of 975 being thrown into the left engine of 706 and FODDING it out. Had it not, 706 would have probably gone straight into the hanger, severing the left wing off on the hanger door frame and more than likely exploding.

Aircraft 916 was pushed into the back corner of the hanger just prior to all of this, also. The tug and tow bar were still connected. This, along with the tremendous drag of having 975's left wing on top of 706's left wing (or 706's left wing jammed under 975's left wing if you wish) stopped 706 from going out the back wall of the hanger. The tug alone (706 was on top of it) probably saved the mx crew inside of the aft equipment bay or avionics bay (wherever they were).

 

[Stifler's Mom]

3 ASA Jets collide in hangar!!

Again???? That makes six now!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Father Jack]

Is it me or does this sound alittle fishy... Hitting only the starter button only drymotors the engine correct. I think some other things like arm the ignition and introducing fuel to the engine had to happen...

It is you. Google "FADEC," or "CRJ 700."

 

[clr4theapch]

Again???? That makes six now!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey dude, does the title "ASA CR7 jumps a shark" supposed to define this event.. some threads don't exactly rate reading, I missed it, and it was just reported by the press (yesterday).. I appologized....

 

[GOULET!]

Well there are 3 of the 100 RJ's Delta is looking to get rid of.

 

[Long Time Gone]

I'll save you the work.

Ignition arms automatically in the CR7 and CR9. The only thing stopping the motor from "lighting up" is the introduction of fuel.

Remember, the thrust lever was in the takeoff setting prior to her touching the start button.

The FADEC regulates the fuel flow via inputs from the thrust lever and other values. The thrust levers in the CR7 and CR9 are "fly by wire", not direct linkage, so the amount of fuel provided is directly related to the thrust lever position. Since the ITT was below 120C (it sat for quite some time), the "conditions" were met for a light off; for example, the ITT was below 120C, the starter was engaged, and the thrust lever was out of the Shut Off detent.

Did I miss anything???

 

[Long Time Gone]

Hey dude, does the title "ASA CR7 jumps a shark" supposed to define this event.. some threads don't exactly rate reading, I missed it, and it was just reported by the press (yesterday).. I appologized....

It's not you, it's Stiff. He's never serious. I'm sure he saw your explanation and had to run with it anyway.

Maybe not.....

At least you took my sarcasm light hearted.

Maybe not.....