2008 LCC East Alpa Letter

[Turtle21]

There are only two times pilots aren't b!tch!ng about their union... 1) when they are b!tch!ing about the other pilots not B!tch!ng about the union, and 2) when they are taking a breath.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Maybe the most powerful tool of singing technology since yodeling can be used to help pilots bitch 100% of the time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeKx6EuMZWM

 

[Full of LUV]

USAPA was formed not with the expectation of "winning" but to simply delay the integration process indefinitely. So far it's a rousing success. 5 years since their careers were resurrected off the scrap heap and they still work off a DOH list with a retirement boom looming and combined ops. still years away, if ever.

Actually, only mgmt and parker can claim to be "duh winning" in this situation!

 

[waveflyer]

Parker is taking that east contract all the way to the bank- Art of War divide and conquer

 

[Tomct]

Parker is taking that east contract all the way to the bank- Art of War divide and conquer

Yep and the East guys were too stupid to see that!! SAD!

 

[Bringupthebird]

USAPA was formed not with the expectation of "winning" but to simply delay the integration process indefinitely. So far it's a rousing success. 5 years since their careers were resurrected off the scrap heap and they still work off a DOH list with a retirement boom looming and combined ops. still years away, if ever.

So why doesn't USAPA sign a side letter suspending Agency Shop provisions of both contracts so that those who don't want to pay for a union dedicated to doing nothing, don't have to?

Better yet, dump USAPA and put in men who can do the job.

 

[becket]

US Airways would be drastically better off with NO UNION than with this worthless bunch of narcissistic criminals running the show.

 

[reepicheep]

Actually without USAPA you could argue that by now they'd be paying industry standard rates so the company is probably pretty happy with the whole USAPA saga...

 

[cactusboy53]

So why doesn't USAPA sign a side letter suspending Agency Shop provisions of both contracts so that those who don't want to pay for a union dedicated to doing nothing, don't have to?

Better yet, dump USAPA and put in men who can do the job.

USAPA has the potential to change for the better. It takes a concerted effort and patience. Look for the attempts to do this. All PHX based pilots should prepare, and all CLT, PHL & DCA pilots that have figured out that USAPA is winning delay ONLY (at a tremendous personal cost) should also prepare:


http://www.reformusapa.com/

It is time to roll up the sleves and get to work.

 

[Music]

It's what happens when ideology wins over rationality. Hard line stances are tempting- but often dumb. Many things happen in life that as much as you dislike or disagree, it is best to live with and move forward- it's the serenity prayer and judgement we've cultivated our entire career. USAPA members have performed the CB equivalent of trying to make the 180 of death return to the field after losing your engine in a cessna. Sometimes it is best to accept hard realities and do your best going forward.

I'd suggest SWA and AT pilots both take note. It's very much apples to oranges, but our own character might very well be tested in the coming years in ways we may not be able to predict. Just as civility is not a sign of weakness, neither is judgement, compromise, or rational intelligence.

Very well said. This is what I've been preaching all along.