2000EX Question

[Crow]

Those in the 2000 EX, what percentage of the time do you think it is capable of LFPB-KHPN?

 

[NGT]

Those in the 2000 EX, what percentage of the time do you think it is capable of LFPB-KHPN?

For planning purposes that is 3127nm.

 

[G100driver]

I have done EIDW (Dublin)-TEB several times and that would be about it on the range. At M80 FL400 until about 40W then we climb to FL430 if helps us. We typically land with about 2500-3000lbs.

Because of the way they decend you over Albany this flight would be as stretch. I would also never count on FL430 for a climb in a non radar environment. We always plan FL400 until we coast in but ask for FL430 when we are capable.

I know the Dassault guys have done this flight several times, but it is certainly not an everyday thing given the North Atlantic winds.

If the boss wants this flight everyday non-stop better take another look at a 900EX (or B for that matter if new is not in the cards).

It is a great airplane if you keep it in the mission profile. Lots of power and excellent dispatch reliablity. (we have a non-EASy collins cockpit).

 

[G100driver]

This is flight plan using average Aug. winds. Not much extra and no accounting for the early decent or running the anti-ice.

With that said you could always LRC ... Let me know if there is anything else I can get you.

FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDWGT AVG W/C
DEST KHPN 014302 08.02 ______ 041030 026728 M044
RESV 000000 00.00 ______
ALTN 000700 00.07 ______ ALTN KJFK DIST 0026 W/C M002
HOLD 000000 00.00 ______
REQD 015502 08.09 ______ BOW 024000 PAYLOAD 000800
EXTRA 001228 00:49 ______
TAXI 000500 DIST 03235
TTL AT BO 016730 08.58 ______

ROUTE:
LFBG ETPA2E ETPAR 4610N 4820N 4930N 4940N 4850N NOVEP YYT J575 BOS
J94 ALB VALRE2 KHPN


LFBG 400 4930N 430

CLIMB SCHED:260/M75 CRUISE SCHED:M80 DESCENT SCHED:M80/300

 

[pilot error]

For planning purposes that is 3127nm.

valuable advice.

 

[dickburns]

YYT J575 BOS J94 ALB then the VALRE2? seems like most the guys I see comning through are coming from somewhere north of BOS like BGR-ALB, etc.

I'm not sure about the numbers on the airplane, but I'd say I say at least 5 or more F2THs coming from somewhere in France every week, not sure what their fuel status is but they get dumnped to 14k over Albany and don't complain.

 

[G100driver]

If you are willing to LRC the airplane you would be able to make it without a lot of difficulty. IF this is your primary mission I would be still be wary of this airframe. Too many what if's when you arrive in HPN/TEB/MMU. One delay and you wish you had stopped in Gander!

PS this flight plan is biased up 3%.

 

[Crow]

Thanks for all the info, it's been a help.

 

[caseyd]

This is flight plan using average Aug. winds. Not much extra and no accounting for the early decent or running the anti-ice.

With that said you could always LRC ... Let me know if there is anything else I can get you.

FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDWGT AVG W/C
DEST KHPN 014302 08.02 ______ 041030 026728 M044
RESV 000000 00.00 ______
ALTN 000700 00.07 ______ ALTN KJFK DIST 0026 W/C M002
HOLD 000000 00.00 ______
REQD 015502 08.09 ______ BOW 024000 PAYLOAD 000800
EXTRA 001228 00:49 ______
TAXI 000500 DIST 03235
TTL AT BO 016730 08.58 ______

ROUTE:
LFBG ETPA2E ETPAR 4610N 4820N 4930N 4940N 4850N NOVEP YYT J575 BOS
J94 ALB VALRE2 KHPN


LFBG 400 4930N 430

CLIMB SCHED:260/M75 CRUISE SCHED:M80 DESCENT SCHED:M80/300

A .75/275 descent would have a favorable impact, though small.