135 Sic

[Rick1128]

SIC

If the trip was sold as a two pilot trip, then it is my opinion that you have no business on the aircraft. It has been my experience that if the PIC has Single Pilot/Auto Pilot authority and the aircraft is approved and functional, the FAA will say very little of anything. But it does call the company's policys and integrity into question. And if an accident or incident happens, then it's anyone's quess what will happen.

KSU, you need to have a very serious talk with your Chief Pilot in the morning. I would not confrontational. I suggest that to take the attitude that you are trying to look out for the company's best interests and protect it from the actions of some unknown, well intentioned, misguided persons.

As for logging SIC time in a 'single' pilot aircraft, FAA legal has issued several 'Letter of Intreprutation' that when the company assigns a properly qualified pilot to the right seat of a single pilot aircraft, it becomes a two pilot aircraft for the duration of the assignment.

 

[English]

varicam,

Ok, it's all semantics. We are saying the same thing.

But again, at my company, we cannot use SICs in the CJs. Yes, I understand that the use of the autopilot is an exemption to using an SIC. But there are other variables that our POI has used to prevent us from using SICs, having to do with the number of seats on board, lack of CVR, etc. We can't use an SIC because we don't have the CVR.

 

[Rick1128]

CVR

English,

Seen that trick before. If the SIC is properly qualified and assigned by the company, he is not a passenger and the 5 passenger seat limitation is not effected by his being on the aircraft. Many of these POIs don't know their own handbook as well as they should.

 

[English]

Rick1128,

Our problem is that we had the belted potties...we removed the seat belts but it just wasn't an acceptable solution to the powers that be...

 

[DA50pilot]

dont you have to have an 8410 indicating SIC King Air,SIC Jetstream,you are acting as SIC part 135