135.225/Is ceiling a factor for starting an approach

[deadstick]

Grazypilot,

135.225..."authorized IFR landing minimums for that airport."

The closest mention of "landing minimums" that I could find is in 91.175 (which applies to 135) which states "No pilot...may land that aircraft when...the flight visibility is less than the visibility prescribed in the standard instrument approach procedure being used."

If you have other references, please share.

 

[Dinger]

Around and around we go. Check post #10 by 100-1/2. Obviously, some research has been done by him. A little experience in a training dept/check airman shows as well. So I say.......what he said, and will add the following..........The jepps show vis.....but no ceiling. It simply shows a DH(DA) or MDA(H).

I have worked for two different 121 carriers. Both of them trained that VIS is all there IS. I have flown under part 135 for a couple of companies in the capacity of check airman. If I am wrong, then I guess I got it coming and will spend some time in the penalty box while some brilliant FED hangs on to my certs.

I have shot soooooo many ILS approaches to MAJOR airports with other Major airliners........all legally shooting and getting in with VV100 but RVR right at 1800. You would think out of a such a large group of obviously novice pilots, one of us would know what the hell we were doing.

If The tide is turning on this, I have heard nothing

 

[eddie]

This was discussed long and hard under FARs last winter. Someone actually posted a letter from a FSDO that said ceilings are limiting. I think that's stupid, I used to always go on vis. I guess if I go back to 135 I'll have to ask my local FAA guy!

For the guy who posted above me, Part 121 reads very different here than 135.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Ask your FSDO....the ACY FSDO says vis is limiting, the BNA FSDO says ceiling and vis is limiting. I go by vis even though our DO and CP say otherwise. Hell, I had the FAA in ACY mad at me because I didn't start an approach when it was 100 over with 5 miles vis. Call your FSDO and see what they say, that is the only answer that is worth knowing.

 

[canadflyau]

look on the approach plate

Out here in the mountains you will occasionally come across a plate that says "ceiling required" on it... For those approaches ceiling and vis are controlling.. and I can't say that I have come across a plate like that in quite some time.