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johnsonrod

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A friend of mine at Delta forwarded this memo to me about long term planning for the Delta domestic fleet. I hope to be a part of it someday!!!



Delta begins long-term planning for domestic aircraft fleet
January 13, 2011

Delta is beginning to plan for the future of its domestic mainline fleet and is accepting requests for proposals or RFPs to replace more than 200 narrowbody aircraft to provide long-term mainline domestic growth.

Late December, Delta sent a RFP to several major aircraft manufacturers for the eventual replacement of aircraft such as the Airbus A320, the DC9-50 and the Boeing 757-200, and to provide for long-term mainline domestic growth.

The proposal marks the next phase of Delta’s mainline fleet strategy, as older domestic mainline aircraft begin to approach retirement age, smaller regional jets and turboprop are phased out and the airline works to grow its domestic business.

During the past year, Delta has focused on combining the Delta and former Northwest fleets and investing in existing aircraft, with improvements including WiFi on all two-class domestic aircraft, interior upgrades and the installation of additional first class seats. Delta also has made some strategic aircraft acquisitions, including new and used aircraft, supplementing DC-9s and other aircraft that have retired from service.

Since 2007, Delta has invested in 60 mainline aircraft, including 10 Boeing 777-200LRs, 12 Boeing 737-700/800s, five used Boeing 757-200s and 33 used MD-90s.

At the same time, the airline has removed more than 70 50-seat regional jets and 25 Saab 340 turboprops from the fleet.

“Our strategy has worked well, with the improvements to our existing aircraft and the cost-efficient airplanes we’ve added to the domestic fleet,” said Nat Pieper, v.p.-Fleet Strategy and Transactions. “We’re now starting to plan for the long term, to ensure that we continue to maintain a flexible, cost-efficient fleet that meets our customers’ needs in the years to come, replace retiring airplanes and provide for domestic mainline growth.”

The RFP asks for proposals to deliver 100 to 200 firm aircraft, with an option for 200 more, starting in early 2013. It asks the manufacturers to consider large, medium and small narrowbody planes to be operated by Delta as mainline aircraft.

Nat said that Delta also continues to look for opportunities to purchase used aircraft.

He added that the request for proposals is a first step, and no decisions have been made regarding future aircraft purchases.

“We’ll evaluate all of our options,” he said
 
Might be your shot at the big leagues kiddo.

Keep telling yourself "I'm smart enough, I'm good enough and dang it I deserve it!"

Gup

ps. Isn't replacing "more than 200" mainline aircraft with "100 to 200" aircraft flat to negative growth?
 
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I think Rod may have written the piece himself. Hoping to engorge his favorite turgid member .... The General.

It's definitely the most original networking strategy. Clever :D
 
The RFP asks for proposals to deliver 100 to 200 firm aircraft, with an option for 200 more, starting in early 2013. It asks the manufacturers to consider large, medium and small narrowbody planes to be operated by Delta as mainline aircraft.

That translates to "We have an opportunity to buy 80 717's and want to know if you will reopen the production line for us."
 
Ya know, The guy is excited about trying to get on with a major and you guys bust on him while you're sittin' pretty? Not too cool.
 
Good point. No surprise the opening salvo was launched by a Southwest puke.
PHXFLYR
 
That's because he is coming on our swa-aai bash-fest threads and is trashing us. So we will give home as much ******************** as we want to. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
I guess for the next year or so, every thread is going to turn in to a swa--aai thread...
 
Or even before that when everyone hated United because they were the ********************.

Gup
 
Or even before that when everyone hated United because they were the ********************.

Gup


Yes.

They appeared so arrogant and threw their pay rates in peoples faces ?

Sorry Gup. It was such a wide opening that I couldn't help myself. I know you understand.

:D
 
Ya know, The guy is excited about trying to get on with a major and you guys bust on him while you're sittin' pretty? Not too cool.

It's the typical southwest d-bag attitude. They bought their job cause they couldn't get hired by interviewing.
They should spend less time worrying about other airlines' growth and worry about the screw job they're gonna get by the Ait Tran pilots.

It's only because the guy's a jerk.

Another internet tough guy hiding behind the safety of his keyboard.
 
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Challenge to Scope out RJs

Scope out RJs is employing a classic propaganda mechanism: say something enough times to a wide enough audience and you'll get people to believe it. Even if it isn't true.

PFT is defined as paying a company for training. Since that is demonstrably not the case at SWA, I'll give him a benefit of the doubt and expand the definition of "PFT" to any expenditures a pilot makes to upgrade his resume.

So...Scope out RJ's, as a SWA pilot, I challenge you to a little duel. I've listed below every expenditure I've ever made to advance my career (flight school, CFI, Comm, Multi, ATP, type ratings, etc.). I challenge you to do the same.

If my expenditures exceed your expenditures, you may continue to insult my job Southwest as being "PFT" without regard to the statement's accuracy. But: If you've spent more to get your job at Delta than I've spent to get my job at Southwest, I will reserve the right to call you out for being a PFT'er after every post you make.

In your rather odd world, virtue is defined by not investing in one's career. So, how do you compare?

Me:
Flight school: $0
Comm: $100 for Mil Equivalency prep/exam
ATP written: $120 for test prep, exam
ATP flight: $0 (flown in military aircraft w/FAA examiner)
737 type: $0
=$120 total

You: ?
 
Joshua Freed, AP Airlines Writer, On Thursday January 13, 2011, 7:48 pm EST

Delta Air Lines Inc. is considering an order for as many as 200 jets -- possibly with options for 200 more -- to replace the aging fleet it uses for domestic flying.

Delta said it asked "several major aircraft manufacturers" for proposals for firm orders for 100 to 200 planes, with options for 200 more, with deliveries to begin in early 2013. No decisions about an order have been made yet, said Nat Pieper, Delta's vice president for fleet strategy and transactions. The request went to manufacturers in late December.
The new planes would replace Delta workhorses such as the DC-9-50s and Airbus A320s that it got when it bought Northwest Airlines in 2008, as well as Boeing 757-200s, which both airlines have operated.

CEO Richard Anderson said in a message to employees that Delta pilots will fly the new planes, not feeder carriers. Delta has shifted flying away from feeder carriers, and has gotten rid of more than 70 of its 50-seat regional jets and 25 Saab 340 turboprops.

A jet order will give Delta the size of planes it needs "to be able to replace retiring airplanes and have modest growth when the economy and fuel prices support it," Anderson said.He said Delta is looking for small, medium, and large planes in the "narrowbody" category, meaning planes with a single aisle for passengers.

Boeing Co. and Airbus, a unit of EADS, are the main manufacturers who could meet such an order, although Chinese and Brazilian manufacturers also plan new planes of the size Delta is looking for.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Scope out RJs is employing a classic propaganda mechanism: say something enough times to a wide enough audience and you'll get people to believe it. Even if it isn't true.

PFT is defined as paying a company for training. Since that is demonstrably not the case at SWA, I'll give him a benefit of the doubt and expand the definition of "PFT" to any expenditures a pilot makes to upgrade his resume.

So...Scope out RJ's, as a SWA pilot, I challenge you to a little duel. I've listed below every expenditure I've ever made to advance my career (flight school, CFI, Comm, Multi, ATP, type ratings, etc.). I challenge you to do the same.

If my expenditures exceed your expenditures, you may continue to insult my job Southwest as being "PFT" without regard to the statement's accuracy. But: If you've spent more to get your job at Delta than I've spent to get my job at Southwest, I will reserve the right to call you out for being a PFT'er after every post you make.

In your rather odd world, virtue is defined by not investing in one's career. So, how do you compare?

Me:
Flight school: $0
Comm: $100 for Mil Equivalency prep/exam
ATP written: $120 for test prep, exam
ATP flight: $0 (flown in military aircraft w/FAA examiner)
737 type: $0
=$120 total

You: ?

Try to pay attention, k?
You had to have the type to get hired at swa, right? That makes it pft.
I got all of my type ratings paid for by my employer.
Thanks for playing.......
Now back to your regular scheduled pft job of flying 6 legs a day doing the texas 2 step.
Your pay rates are great. Congrats, on that.
 
So now any airline with rating requirements is a "PFT" outfit?!

Did you have to have a Comm, ATP, and or FE rating to get hired by Delta?

By your definition, you are PFT pilot. And since you didn't take me up on my challenge, I'll conclude that you've "paid" a lot more than I did.
 
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