Flying CL300 International w/ Flexjet question?

[Iam3rd]

I just got hired with Flexjet into the CL300 and was curious as to how much international flying it does and to where. What countries can Flexjet fly to.

 

[johnsonrod]

I just got hired with Flexjet into the CL300 and was curious as to how much international flying it does and to where. What countries can Flexjet fly to.

I would say that you can expect a lot of Mexico (Cabo, Cancun, etc.) and the Caribbean). I see those guys flying down to St. Thomas and Barbados all the time. I thought I saw one fly nonstop from Jackson Hole, Wyoming to Cancun last week. You will also do some Hawaii flights. Not too sure about Europe. Very nice airplane.

 

[Iam3rd]

In the CL300 at Flexjet, what % is domestic and the rest international?

 

[CL300Pilot]

98% domestic 2 % international. That is a best guess. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me or call your ACP.

 

[C604Pilot]

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The 300 is doiing more Intl every day, ie Europe. Its ability to go random route over the Atlantic at high altitude instead of getting in line with others allows it to use its maximum range.

Remember time of year determines how much Intl the Co is doing. Like Spring Break, mywhole rotation was Island flying.

Chat with CL300, this guy is always correct with his post.

 

[walshsfly]

International is all luck of the draw. I've been in the plane for just over a year now and I haven't crossed yet, but I know a lot of guys that have. Remember its a 7 hour airplane, it can go anywhere from just about anywhere. I've done 6:45 without leaving the country, and landed lots of fuel left. Its an amazing machine and you'll love flying it.

 

[johnsonrod]

International is all luck of the draw. I've been in the plane for just over a year now and I haven't crossed yet, but I know a lot of guys that have. Remember its a 7 hour airplane, it can go anywhere from just about anywhere. I've done 6:45 without leaving the country, and landed lots of fuel left. Its an amazing machine and you'll love flying it.

Little off topic, but how would you compare flying the CL300 to flying the CRJ in terms of handling, systems, ergonomics up front, etc.? How many hours up front before it starts to get uncomfortable? I've heard 1-2 hours in the Citation X...

For international flying specifically, do all CL300 pilots receive the same training or is it seniority based? Could a new FO on the line get a European trip?

 

[Iam3rd]

I have not started there yet, but from what I hear not many FO's get the european trips. I hear usually new captains go with check airmans to get checked out over there. Unless its going to be a quick turn there with min. rest and then coming back.

 

[walshsfly]

Little off topic, but how would you compare flying the CL300 to flying the CRJ in terms of handling, systems, ergonomics up front, etc.? How many hours up front before it starts to get uncomfortable? I've heard 1-2 hours in the Citation X...

For international flying specifically, do all CL300 pilots receive the same training or is it seniority based? Could a new FO on the line get a European trip?

The 300 is, in my opinion, easy to fly. The CRJ was built to be easy to fly for even low time pilots, the 300 isn't, but its not hard, just has more real feel to it. The systems are different but even easier than the RJ's, its a more automated airplane, and it was made to have the autopilot do most of the flying. For comfort up front, is their any airplane made that's comfy for more than 2 hours, I can't even sit in my lazy boy for more than 2 hours without having to get up. Good thing the cabin is big enough to stand up in.

International training is done during initial, I have meet one guy that said he crossed either during or right after his IOE, I have slept since then so I'm not completely sure.

 

[haulingthemail]

International trips over the pond are usually extended trips. When this happens they start at the top of the senority list and go through each one asking if they want the extended trip. There are different things that apply to it. You'll learn more about it when the time comes. But for now just worry more about getting through class and training then if you get to go over the pond.

 

[Iam3rd]

Just curious to know what my flying is going to consist of......thats all.

 

[Iam3rd]

Does anyone know if Flexjet allowes pilots to do contract flying on their off time?

 

[DirtyBeech]

Yes, just get approval in writing from the chief pilot.

 

[skydan5]

Does anyone know if Flexjet allowes pilots to do contract flying on their off time?

In the first week of your training, many of your questions get asked/answered. Not to discourage you from asking now, but just to let you know.

 

[CL300Pilot]

C604Pilot, thanks. I try to be as honest as I can and try not to blow smoke. Someone mentioned that most trips are going to CA's and that is true. It is more important to the company for obvious reasons to get the CA's checked out. Also, and this is off topic but real important for anyone looking to come here. As I and Walsh and others have stated before, if you don't want to sling bags, clean the cabin or work your tail off, don't come to Flex because you will be miserable. Everyone comes here as an FO regardless of how much time or credentials you have. You could be a 50 year old retired airline captain and be reporting to a 30 something male/female captain at any given moment. That is just the way it is. But the company is a good one.

Now back to the originally schedule topic : )

 

[walshsfly]

C604Pilot, thanks. I try to be as honest as I can and try not to blow smoke. Someone mentioned that most trips are going to CA's and that is true. It is more important to the company for obvious reasons to get the CA's checked out. Also, and this is off topic but real important for anyone looking to come here. As I and Walsh and others have stated before, if you don't want to sling bags, clean the cabin or work your tail off, don't come to Flex because you will be miserable. Everyone comes here as an FO regardless of how much time or credentials you have. You could be a 50 year old retired airline captain and be reporting to a 30 something male/female captain at any given moment. That is just the way it is. But the company is a good one.

Now back to the originally schedule topic : )

Hey just leave me out of the truth. all it does is hurt.

 

[V1 Rotate]

Well, I'm in the LR45 class on April 5th.....where should I expect to fly mostly?

 

[Iam3rd]

V1
From the things I have read it will be all domestic, islands and a little Mexico.

 

[JATAGA]

I hear from class mates that the 300 sim is alittle tricky on V1 cuts... just a heads up.

as for the 45 (my fleet) Ive seen 19 states and been to Mexico twice in three rotations. Pay attention to the high hot and heavy day in sim because I've seen Aspen and Eagle about five times already,

 

[On Your Six]

Flexjet Fleet Growth in 2007?

What sort of growth will Flexjet see this year in terms of fleet? How many new CL300s, L40/L45XRs and L60XRs expected? Has the 604 fleet growth stopped or will you be adding the new 605?

 

[Iam3rd]

Correct me if I am wrong CL300PILOT OR C604PILOT. Flexjet will not keep an aircraft older than 7 years. I think this fall they are going to start changing out the 604 with the 605. And I think either this year or next, the CL300 will become their largest line of aircraft.

 

[hammer2]

Well, I'm in the LR45 class on April 5th.....where should I expect to fly mostly?

KYIP.

 

[CL300Pilot]

Correct me if I am wrong CL300PILOT OR C604PILOT. Flexjet will not keep an aircraft older than 7 years. I think this fall they are going to start changing out the 604 with the 605. And I think either this year or next, the CL300 will become their largest line of aircraft.

I have heard that we do not keep aircraft longer than 5 years. Yes, the 605 will start to phase out the 604. The 300 just became the largest of our fleet I was told. If this is not true, it will not be long, but definetly by next year it will be the largest fleet.

As far as V1 cuts in the sim, just keep it on the ground a coupe of seconds longer and do a nice easy pull up and you will do fine.

 

[doh]

I have always found that if you keep center line, that amount of rudder will hold after rotation as well. It worked pretty well in the 60 sim.

 

[walshsfly]

I have heard that we do not keep aircraft longer than 5 years. Yes, the 605 will start to phase out the 604. The 300 just became the largest of our fleet I was told. If this is not true, it will not be long, but definetly by next year it will be the largest fleet.

As far as V1 cuts in the sim, just keep it on the ground a coupe of seconds longer and do a nice easy pull up and you will do fine.

The 45 still has the 300 beat by one as of right now but that will change very soon.

And what he said about V1 cuts, just don't try to over control it.

 

[JATAGA]

that was the v1 cut solution that they said worked... it also works well in the 45. My partner was a 300 guy and he did say the 45 sim flew better, but thats just hear say.

the 300 is most certanly the sweetheart of the fleet,,, nice nice bird.

 

[Cautious Belly]

I just did EGGW-KBED. Block time 7.1 hrs, burn was 11300#, block in fuel was 2620# (company reserve is 1500#). We were slightly nose-up on the ramp, so we didn't get the best top-off. On the way out, we squeezed over 14,200# on board.
M.80@FL410 Eastbound, M.75&FL430 West. Easy as pie, and yes, it was comfortable up front.

 

[CL300Pilot]

Still too many hours in an aircraft :beer:

Welcome back state side.

 

[Wiggums]

Big news is that JetBlue finally has a retirement package along with getting a raise. Should put a dent in the staffing up north.

The Indy exodus continues.

 

[doylehargraves]

Well, I'm in the LR45 class on April 5th.....where should I expect to fly mostly?

Haha. That's funny. You'll fly wherever the 600+ customers want to go that week. You could spend your whole week never going east of Phoenix or the whole week only landing in new jersey and florida. One thing for sure is that if you land in Chicago, you'll be going to TEB (NEVER FAILS).