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Message: [QUOTE="racerX, post: 4777, member: 307"] [b]Vanguard pay[/b] The pay at vanguard is bad. A new F/O will make about $28 per credit (based on milage of the leg but usually aproximates the number of hours). The pay only goes up about $3 after a year. Captains start around $65 but a career captain will only top out around $100k. You're not going to get rich at Vanguard. The contract is up in 2004 but I have heard rumors that F/O pay may be addressed before then. F/O pay never used to matter because people upgraded so fast but now that has changed a bit so they may bump second year F/O pay a little. Benefits are pretty standard. Medical, Dental, 401K. No stock program. The stock was de-listed from the NASDAQ but don't let that fool you. They have a very good business plan and if nothing else gets in the way, they should do well next year. 3 more -80's in the next few months and a deal in writing with Boeing for 6+ MD-90's with the first deliveries slated for April 2002. I'm excited. X [/QUOTE]