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Message: [QUOTE="JimNtexas, post: 680361, member: 854"] Wow, I'm partner in an Archer II with a Garmin 430 and STEC 20 that has a useful load of 967 pounds. The air conditioner must be whats killing your useful load. Even worse, with the air conditioner you get a little rubber band for the alternator instead of a proper belt. It will break on you sometime, probably when you are night and IFR. Just fill it up to the tabs and you ought to be ok for three people. I promise the rear seat pax does NOT want to sit back there for much more than 2 1/2 hours in any case. Of course if it is a rental you never know what fuel is going to be there when you show up to fly, so you're probably screwed. [/QUOTE]