Some close to 45% pay increase over the 5 years.
So in 2009 at the height of the great recession getting a CBA with a 45% pay increase was acceptable from where we started.
To match the Flex pay it would have had to have been closer to 80% and Kenn was not going to go for that.
In the second...
That was a big problem at Flight Options before the contract.
When the contract came in we had many pilots get a 40 or 45% pay increase over the life of the contract. Mainly due to Kenns little game with pay rates. That is just one of the things that we are trying to inform you about.
When we...
What about going from year 8 Lear Captain to the Challenger?
Do you go to year 8 CL300 Captain or start at Year 1 CL300 Captain pay?
That was what Kenn did to the Flight Options pilots before the CBA. When you went up to another aircraft you went down to year 1 pay in that aircraft.
They...
Did the pilots vote for the agreement? If so what percent voted for and how much voted against?
I assume it passed since it is now in effect. When does it come up for renewal?
Can you give some examples over the last few years where management made a decision and you all got together and voted to change it.
How is this done?
Did you have a vote before your sick days were taken away or is it still being discussed and when will the vote take place?
So it is a Facebook site where you and your Frat buddies can get drunk and chat with your Granny and mom monitoring what you say.:rolleyes:
Sounds fun, when do I get to join :laugh:
I am not sure about that but it does bring up an interesting bit of information regarding the seniority list.
If you look at the FO list you will see lots of manages on the list who wanted to pay their fair share to the union to keep their names on the list.
I guess even they see the...
An excellent quote about unions in yesterdays WSJ.
"If you're not at the table, you're probably on the menu."
I would hope that the Flex jet pilots join us at the table.
Once again, it is not the Flight Options pilots decision. It is our common owner Kenn Ricci who wants us combined. He already stated advertising the CL300 on the Flight Options web site.
Do you honestly believe that if there was no union he would keep the operations side separate? He is going...
Just so the Flex pilots are a little better informed as to what happened at the Travel Air / Flight Options merger years ago.
Both pilot lists were combined using a DOH and a percentage placement in some sort of formula.
Since this was done before it set a precedence in the company so a...
It look like your CEO is not fully informed or is giving bad info again.
We were just informed the union requested that the FO pilots be given access to Yammer but were turned down by management.
I guess they don't want the Flex pilots to hear what the FO pilots have to say.
It makes you...
Maybe it's a platypus? :)
Why weren't any Flex jet pilots chosen? Does Flex not have any good old boys who could join the Cleveland good old boys in the circle of trust?
How are TM an JK going to carry on their duties at FO while being dedicated crew members on an aircraft? Did they resign...
No details until it is all done.
I thought that you might be discussing the Flex pilots suggestions/ ideas on Yammer. If so what are some of your ideas? Who knows they might be very similar to the FO pilots.
What have you been told by the Flex jet negotiators as to how the list intergration and fence negotiations have been going? Have they been taking your suggestions into consideration?
Were the Flex pilots polled as to how they want it organized or were just a few Flex pilot representatives...
Yes the Flight Options pilots should give the :laugh: new leadership :laugh: a chance.
I think we should listen to this Flex pilot he seems to be well informed. :D
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