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    You'll be moved...

    Domestic. No mention of the "fleet FOs" (how is that different from non-Red Label. I was told the Lear 75 program is dead. But Red Label aircraft will have cool, unique interiors. A lot of the "Red Label" seems to appeal to the first time fractional buyer. After a few years and the novelty of...
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    You'll be moved...

    If I recall correctly, last time (circa 2000) the dedicated crewing was because there were many inconsistencies in the flight deck along the same jets in the same fleet since they were all picked up used. I agree with Shanes that if a pilot moves to an open fleet than he does not fly just 1...
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    You'll be moved...

    Yes - I realize all that a sales rep says is not fact. But I also realize planes go into unscheduled maintenance and don't fly. The businessman in me says that operationally it must be quite expensive to have dedicated crews who don't have anything else to do when a jet is not flying - unless...
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    You'll be moved...

    Red Label - Plane Crewing So I recently had a lengthy conversation with my former FLOPs/FX sales rep as he is trying to persuade me to return. I ask him what happens with the crew on single plane crewing when a plane goes into unscheduled and scheduled maintenance. Regarding unscheduled...
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    The next vote, December 20th

    Someone sent me a bunch of pilot jokes the other day -- this one was funny - no offense intended to the FOs who fly me safely - but it could go here What is the difference between a jet engine and an FO? The engines stop whining when you shut down the plane and leave the airport. Sorry guys.
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    NetJets' 2800 Pilots Just Dusted Warren Buffett

    It serves to bolster opinion of the Union leaders. I was in a union once (Laborers International Union). In most cases the #1 goal is to perpetuate and reward union leadership - members usually come 2nd. I agree the Post is a rag - but while it is not 100% accurate - it is usually close...
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    NetJets' 2800 Pilots Just Dusted Warren Buffett

    Based upon the tone and statements in the past articles on the subject, most (if not all) of the articles seem to have been hand fed to the reporter by/on behalf of the union.
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    NetJets' 2800 Pilots Just Dusted Warren Buffett

    So says the article in today's New York Post. "For the pilots, the key to reaching a deal was the changing leadership last year at NetJets Association of Shared Aircraft Pilots Union ...". I guess WB wasn't available for comment because he was at home sulking from this "dusting" and dreaming of...
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    The next vote, December 20th

    NetJets' 2800 pilots Just Dusted Warren Buffet sorry - psoted in wrong spot
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    NJA TA in principal reached!!!

    Doesn't what happens in your "time off" affect fatigue as well? I am not saying it should be regulated, but doesn't that flying or other activities happen in the "7 off" have quite bit of influence not the 7 "on days"?
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    Pilots expected to picket Warren Buffett-owned NetJets

    Guess who wins if we go by cumulative net worth on board..... Actually probably Delta. While there are a few billionaires flying NetJets, most ultra-ultra high net worth individuals have their own jet (or their company does). So NetJets appeals to those in the $25MM-$500MM range. Filling up...
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    Nothing on Wheels Up??

    It is the business model of Marquis/Wheels Up. Explode out of the gate, give aways to celebrities and notables, lots of smoke and mirrors to attract those who fly privately only 25 hours per year, and then hit the financial headwinds. Check back in 5 years except they do not have a backstop...
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    Flexjet Aims Higher with ?Red Label? - AIN

    BTW -- I don't know what some of you mean buy that extra "Flexjet" service (even before Red Label). I flew a decent amount on FJ form 2008-2011 and it was not noticeably different from NJ.
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    Flexjet Aims Higher with ?Red Label? - AIN

    I was told a few months back but the sales team (but not sure it will remain), that on owner will mainly fly on his/her aircraft. I just don't see how that happens regularly or cost efficiently when I want to fly TEB-ACK and my tail is in VNY. And the "warranty savings" is not much. Whenever...
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    Flexjet Aims Higher with ?Red Label? - AIN

    It's obvious Kenn doesn't understand the market I don't necessarily agree with that -- from the owner's side (not the pilots' slide). Once upon a time NJA was cool, unique, exclusive and personal. KR is trying to get that business which now doesn't have a home on the frax/charter side...
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    Flexjet Aims Higher with ?Red Label? - AIN

    Frax is already an expensive proposition for private aircraft. As Red Label seems to make it even more expensive but cater to those with a desire for cool interiors -- aren't those people getting closer to a a private a/c and pick truly customize their experience?
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    Flexjet Takes Aim at Buffett?s Netjets for International Fliers

    Operators X-rated - I agree and do not lump all operators of any type (corp., charter or fax) into any generalization any more than I lump all restaurants into a generalized category of quality, service, cleanliness, etc. However, that being said, I personally have a few friends who have their...
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    Flexjet Takes Aim at Buffett?s Netjets for International Fliers

    Thank you for your comment. I have learned more than a tremendous amount being on this board. Not that I take most (or even much) of what is said as fact - it has educated me on what the service and what many of the issues are. Once I know what many of the issues are, I can continue my...
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    Flexjet Takes Aim at Buffett?s Netjets for International Fliers

    If it were me I could buy charter on my own. And there is no guarantee that they pay top dollar for a good operator. Just wondering
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    Flexjet Takes Aim at Buffett?s Netjets for International Fliers

    I saw the G-450 at Teterboro at NBAA the other day. It does look quite nice (but so does probably every 2 day old jet). Out of curiosity, if I am a Flexjet G-450 owner and there is a maintenance issue or a fatigue call when I am in eastern Europe, or anywhere on the other side of the planet...
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