Way off-topic: FFL

[Chunk]

Can anyone shed any light on the mysteries of getting/holding an FFL? (FFL = Federal Firearms license) Mostly $$, limitations, paperwork, et cetera.

PM me if you prefer.

Thank you fellow Vast Right-Wing Conspirators,

Chunk

 

[snowback]

What State?

 

[Chunk]

FL....that matters?

 

[dasmith]

is a FFL a dealer's license or a concealed carry permit?

 

[Chunk]

FFL's have different classes for different purposes. A CCW (concealed permit) varies by state, if at all available.

I'm interested in an Class 3 (I think!)

 

[EagleRJ]

I think you're confusing several different things.

A CCW (Carry of Concealed Weapon) is a permit for a citizen to carry a concealed firearm. The process varies, but most states have CCW statutes on the books now. A few states even let you carry without getting a formal CCW.

A FFL lets you purchase firearms from the manufacturers and resell them (or keep them yourself). You could call it a dealer permit. I'm not sure what the requirements are, but I know they're lengthy. Ask the BATFE how to get started.

A Class III FFL is the highest and the hardest to get. It lets you deal with sub-machine guns and select-fire weapons (semi-automatic and fully-automatic).

 

[avbug]

Obtaining the FFL isn't a big deal. The BATF is interested in your desire to make a profit. If you're wanting it only to get a discount on firearms, they'll chuck the application faster than you can say thank you.

You need to be able to show that you have a secure storage location with reasonable security precautions. The BATF has the right to inspect your facilities at any time, with no notice. Most people who do just a little selling do it from their home; be aware of the implications in your personal life. Your home becomes subject to search at any time, without warrant, without notice. So do you, your posessions, etc.

A class III dealership entitles you to sell restricted weapons and objects, including certain ammunition feeding devices, automatic weapons, silencers, etc.

If you're after a class III in order to purchase them for yourself, you're probably better off just paying the two hundred bucks one-time NFA transfer tax and taking posession of the weapon.

Bear in mind that if you hold a Class III weapon, you are also subject to search at any time.

BATF will approve the application if the applicant is 21 years or more of age; is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition; has not willfully violated the Gun Control Act or its regulations; has not willfully failed to disclose material information or willfully made false statements concerning material facts in connection with his application; and has premises for conducting business or collecting.

Additionally, the applicant certifies that the business to be conducted under the license is not prohibited by State or local law in the place where the licensed premise is located; within 30 days after the application is approved the business will comply with the requirements of State and local law applicable to the conduct of the business; the business will not be conducted under the license until the requirements of State and local law applicable to the business have been met; and, the applicant has sent or delivered a form to the chief law enforcement officer where the premises are located notifying the officer that the applicant intends to apply for a license.

Submit ATF Form 7, Application for License, or ATF Form 7CR, Application for License (Collector of Curios or Relics), with the appropriate fee in accordance with the instructions on the form. These forms may be obtained from the Firearms and Explosives Licensing Center in Atlanta, Georgia or your local ATF office.

A separate license must be obtained for each location. Storage facilities are not required to be covered by a separate license. However, the records maintained on licensed premises must reflect all firearms held in the separate storage facility. Firearms may be shipped directly to separate storage facilities as long as they are properly recorded as an acquisition in the licensee's records.

A Federal firearms license confers no right or privilege to carry a firearm, concealed or otherwise. Permits to carry are issued by State or local authorities.

If you're looking only to collect or purchase privately, you may obtain a collector's license; however, this license applies only to transactions in curio or relic firearms. A licensed collector has the same status under the Gun Control Act as a nonlicensee except for transactions in curio or relic firearms.

A Class III dealer pays an annual fee of $500.00. If you just want to own a NFA restricted weapon (class III), the requirements are as follows:

ATF Form 4 (5320.4) must be completed, in duplicate. The transferor must first complete the face of the form. The transferee must complete the transferee's certification on the reverse of the form and have the "Law Enforcement Certification" completed by the chief law enforcement officer.

The transferee is to affix, on each copy of the form, a 2 inch by 2 inch photograph of himself taken within the past year (proofs, group photographs or photocopies are unacceptable). The transferee's address must be a street address, not a post office box. If there is no street address, specific directions to the residence must be included.

If State or local law requires a prior permit or license to purchase, possess, or receive NFA firearms, a copy of the transferee's permit or license must accompany the application. A check or money order for $200 ($5 for transfer of "any other weapon") shall be made payable to ATF by the transferor. All signatures on both copies must be in ink.

Submit fingerprints on FBI Form FD-258, in duplicate: Fingerprints must be taken by a person qualified to do so, and must be clear and classifiable. If wear or damage to the fingertips do not allow clear prints, and if the prints are taken by a law enforcement official, a statement on his or her official letterhead giving the reason why good prints are unobtainable should accompany the fingerprints.

Forward completed information and appropriate tax payment to the Bureau of ATF, P.O. Box 73201, Chicago, IL 60673. Transfer of the NFA firearm may be made only upon approval of the ATF Form 4 by the NFA Branch. If application is approved, the original of the form with the cancelled stamp affixed, showing approval will be returned to the applicant. Otherwise, the tax will be refunded.

Upon approval of the ATF Form 4 the transferor should transfer the firearm as soon as possible, since the firearm is now registered to the transferee.

 

[snowback]

My mistake. For some reason I had my Acronyms confused. I was thinking CCW.

 

[RightPedal]

Try this place;
http://www.packing.org/
Everything you ever wanted to know about State and Federal law on firearms.

 

[WrightAvia]

Bear in mind that if you hold a Class III weapon, you are also subject to search at any time.

I think you probably made a typo. Lawful possesion of Title II firearms by a citizen, does not mean that they give up any rights. However, being a Class III dealer or Class II manufacturer...your principle place of business could be subject to search.