The voting for a union (ALPA at Skywest)

[Positive Rate]

I heard that if this thing does come to a vote.....and you go to vote and you vote against to have ALPA as rep.(i e SAPA is your rep or teamsters or whoever) then your vote actually goes to ALPA...due to the percentages or something screwy.......thats why ALPA supporters are saying to vote even if your voting against....so to actually vote no, your not supposed to vote at all.......anyone know anything about this? How does the process actually work?

 

[fried chickens]

yes= for alpa
no= against alpa
not voting= against alpa

 

[Positive Rate]

yes= for alpa
no= against alpa
not voting= against alpa

I have heard it s not just a simple yes or no.........if you do vote.......

but the not voting is...the "against" your saying.

 

[inthegoo]

Don't listen to the SAPA liars!

Here's how the vote works:

1. Less than 50% of the pilots cast a vote:
Regardless of the distribution of the votes, there is no change. SAPA continues in its present powerless, management controlled and funded form, unless the court decides that is illegal, in which case SAPA disappears.

2. More than 50% of the pilots cast a vote for anything:
2a) SAPA gets more of those votes than ALPA:
SAPA becomes legally recognized and certified under the RLA, regardless of what the court decided.
2b) ALPA gets more of those votes than SAPA:
ALPA becomes legally recognized and certified under the RLA.

 

[Positive Rate]

Here's how the vote works:

1. Less than 50% of the pilots cast a vote:
Regardless of the distribution of the votes, there is no change. SAPA continues in its present powerless, management controlled and funded form, unless the court decides that is illegal, in which case SAPA disappears.

2. More than 50% of the pilots cast a vote for anything:
2a) SAPA gets more of those votes than ALPA:
SAPA becomes legally recognized and certified under the RLA, regardless of what the court decided.
2b) ALPA gets more of those votes than SAPA:
ALPA becomes legally recognized and certified under the RLA.

So what your saying is...

If you want ALPA...vote ALPA(but over 50% of the pilot group has to vote and vote ALPA)

If you want SAPA...vote SAPA(but over 50% of the pilot group has to vote and of those pilots, more have to vote SAPA)

If you don t want either...don' t vote at all(but if let s say 60% of the pilot group votes, but of that 60%....31% votes ALPA.......ALPA is in.......So in essence non wanters of either...need less than 50% of the pilot group to vote)

 

[inthegoo]

the SAPA liars want you to just not call

What I am saying is, (1)if you want SAPA in its present powerless, management controlled and funded form, dont vote.

(2)If you want a new SAPA that is legally recognized and certified under the RLA and funded by us, then vote and vote SAPA, which by the way you have to do it as a write in vote, which you will actually have to speak the word "Saaapaaaahhhh" into the phone, not really write in.

(3)If you want ALPA then vote and vote ALPA.

you have to pick one of 3 choices

1) dont call, and end up with same lame ass B.S.
2) call and vote SAPA
3) call and vote ALPA

please do either 2 or 3, but god please dont choose 1, it has proven to not work

If less than 50% of the pilots pick up the phone and vote then its #1 (bad!)

If 50% of the pilots pick up the phone and vote for anything, then its going to be #2 or#3 whichever gets more votes

my dad always said "son, you get what you pay for" or in this case, "son, they got what they paid for"

THEY= SkyWest Management

 

[Positive Rate]

Well I want a union..........no offense to ALPA and those involved.....ALPA is a great organization but i dont want ALPA at Skywest..........I want ALPA when and if i get to a main line........but not here......thats just my gut......



inthegoo.....thanks for the clarity.

 

[CoAlpha]

bla bla retards

vote alpa if you want it, if you dont, then dont vote

 

[Positive Rate]

bla bla retards

vote alpa if you want it, if you dont, then dont vote

I sure hope your not an ALPA rep of any sort......that forsure would make me not vote ALPA

 

[bender]

I guarantee you there will be more votes for ALPA than for SAPA, so if you do vote for SAPA then you'll probably end up with ALPA. If you don't want a union then just don't vote.