The British are Coming

[CaptainMark]

Virgin America plans to operate into these airports....DFW..PHX..LAS..SFO..SLC..SEA..
IAH..DEN..MSY..TPA..SRQ..MCO..PBI..FLL..
MIA..JAX..ATL..RDU..CLT..MCI..IND..ORD..
CLE..CVG..PHL..EWR..BOS..BWI...WATCH OUT LCCs...

 

[canyonblue]

Willy Wonka: The suspense is terrible... I hope it lasts.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

That'll be the first virgins I've seen in a while in the A T L :laugh:

 

[CaptainMark]

That'll be the first virgins I've seen in a while in the A T L :laugh:

you guys joke...but branson is coming guns ablazing...33 airbusses at peanut pilot payrates...and with the LCCs losing money it will not be pretty...they are starting with 177mill..jb started with 135...run and hide..the british are coming!

 

[canyonblue]

...at peanut pilot payrates...

Pay rates won't save an airline, and it sure won't sink it. Good management with a great credit rating and the knowledge of how to run an airline without losing money is the key.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

you guys joke...but branson is coming guns ablazing...33 airbusses at peanut pilot payrates...and with the LCCs losing money it will not be pretty...they are starting with 177mill..jb started with 135...run and hide..the british are coming!

That wasn't a joke. I really haven't seen a virgin in Atlanta for a long time....oh....you mean joking about the airline. Well, I figure I can't do anything about it so why lose sleep over it? If Branson doesn't do it, somebody else will. There will always be pilots willing to work for peanuts and there will always be management folks looking to make a buck and then cut and run. Then the cycle will begin anew.

 

[CaptainMark]

agreed

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Virgin America plans to operate into these airports....DFW..PHX..LAS..SFO..SLC..SEA..
IAH..DEN..MSY..TPA..SRQ..MCO..PBI..FLL..
MIA..JAX..ATL..RDU..CLT..MCI..IND..ORD..
CLE..CVG..PHL..EWR..BOS..BWI...WATCH OUT LCCs...

Watch out everyone! Even cargo is get sketchy with the whole DHL,Astar,Airborne fiasco

 

[pkober]

Didn't we beat the British once?

 

[COpilot]

Pay rates won't save an airline, and it sure won't sink it. Good management with a great credit rating and the knowledge of how to run an airline without losing money is the key.

Yeah, but thats not the point. For 5,6,7 years they can run around the states charging $50 a seat across the Country, cutting into everyones RPSM! (Even LCC king B6)

I can't wait for the day that Dave & Dave come to you guys and say; "Because of other LCC's cutting into our yeilds, we have to have relief from our crews expenses."

Actually that's sad for me to say. I don't want your pay cut, I want you guys to continue to go up in pay. A better way to say it is; "I think it will suck the day Dave & Dave cut your pay with a memo, and no input from a single crewmember."

 

[learherkjay]

Great attitude. I am so glad you are cheering for a foreign company just so you can get some sort of personal vindication.

 

[learherkjay]

okay, better now after your edit, now I understand what you mean:beer:

 

[FLB717]

If the LCC's should be scared what about the Big Boys! They are already on the ropes, if this is the future and accurate it could knock them out of the ring.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Yeah, but thats not the point. For 5,6,7 years they can run around the states charging $50 a seat across the Country, cutting into everyones RPSM! (Even LCC king B6)

I can't wait for the day that Dave & Dave come to you guys and say; "Because of other LCC's cutting into our yeilds, we have to have relief from our crews expenses."

Actually that's sad for me to say. I don't want your pay cut, I want you guys to continue to go up in pay. A better way to say it is; "I think is will suck the day Dave & Dave cut your pay with a memo, and no input from a single crewmember."

I don't think canyonblue flies a 737 for jb. Good way to turn this into an anti-jb thread though.

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

BEWARE THE WOOLY PULLEY!

Not everything RB touches turns to gold, and make sure you understand this:

RB didn't become a billionaire being a nice guy. Met the guy socially, didn't like him or his attitude. An arrogant, know-it-all womanising git IMHO. If you need the job, goferit, but whatever you do, if your present employment is half decent, stay right where you are.

 

[Full of LUV]

Wtf????

Virgin America plans to operate into these airports....DFW..PHX..LAS..SFO..SLC..SEA..
IAH..DEN..MSY..TPA..SRQ..MCO..PBI..FLL..
MIA..JAX..ATL..RDU..CLT..MCI..IND..ORD..
CLE..CVG..PHL..EWR..BOS..BWI...WATCH OUT LCCs...

So RB is going to not offer service to one of the biggest markets in CONUS, Southern California?????? Name another airline that makes a go of it without using an LA airports? That will be unique!

 

[shon7]

BEWARE THE WOOLY PULLEY!

Not everything RB touches turns to gold, and make sure you understand this:

RB didn't become a billionaire being a nice guy. Met the guy socially, didn't like him or his attitude. An arrogant, know-it-all womanising git IMHO. If you need the job, goferit, but whatever you do, if your present employment is half decent, stay right where you are.

Amen. Since it is mostly speculation at this point -- Virgin also might be looking to be the next Ryanair as opposed to the next B6 or WN. Either way, Branson does not like to lose.

 

[Dennis Miller]

Success in the past does not ensure success in the future. Heck, after the 50s, even Elvis couldn't do Elvis.

 

[COpilot]

I don't think canyonblue flies a 737 for jb. Good way to turn this into an anti-jb thread though.

Get off my back,,, I'll try to make this more clear so you don't have to read between the lines.

The POINT is that Virgin will be in the pockets of every airline from the large to the small, whether sucessful or not! It's NOT anti B6. B6 is used as an example, to which the sh#! will roll down hill from this. "gee"

 

[COpilot]

Success in the past does not ensure success in the future. Heck, after the 50s, even Elvis couldn't do Elvis.

They won't need to be a success to be a big Pain in the Butt to continued industry efforts to raise RPSM's.

 

[shon7]

Get off my back,,, I'll try to make this more clear so you don't have to read between the lines.

The POINT is that Virgin will be in the pockets of every airline from the large to the small, whether sucessful or not! It's NOT anti B6. B6 is used as an example, to which the sh#! will roll down hill from this. "gee"

For all the anti B6 talk -- they filled a void in the airline industry -- that is great service at a good price. In one way or the other the other carriers took note. Virgin America should do the same for the marketplace. I'd rather have 10 new Jet Blues in the market that at least attempt to serve the customer ---- rather than flying on NWA/UAL/DAL/AA and receive the poor service that these legacies provide -- right from checkin till you get your bags at your final destination.

 

[Falconjet]

Be careful what you ask for, Shon, you might get it.

FJ

 

[talespin]

Hey man if you were getting bent over by management with not so much as a reach around you would be giving Sh!tty service too!


By the way thanks for not mentioning CAL!!!! Hopefully we are doing something right for now.

 

[bluejuice787]

What is the point of this list of airports? All airlines always want to go all places.

Second, just like the legacy carriers, Branson does not get the idea that the systemic reason many of todays carriers are failing is leadership. What did Carty do for American? Pull out seats? Buy TWA? Sell hedges to SWA? $hitt on his employees? Line the pockets of Execs instead of listening to the customer? Line the pockets of Execs instead of listening to employees.

Fred Reid...

Who gives a crap about Sir Branson? I don't.

Juice

 

[Focus]

There is only one thing to do just as our brothers did before us. Lets all go to Boston and throw Jet A into the Harbor......Wait a minute, is that the same as throwing tea into the harbor. Yea,,,just about the same. American Sky Harbors Revolution!!! Get on Board Boyz and Girls.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Get off my back,,, I'll try to make this more clear so you don't have to read between the lines.

The POINT is that Virgin will be in the pockets of every airline from the large to the small, whether sucessful or not! It's NOT anti B6. B6 is used as an example, to which the sh#! will roll down hill from this. "gee"

Stop shouting at the computer when you type. And go back and read your original post, Captain (again) ... your point was to make a jab at jb, pure and simple. Go ahead and get the last word in, I won't return the favor.

 

[Gorilla]

With Don Carty intimately involved with the Virgin A. operation, it will be only a matter of months before serious problems crop up. Have no fear.

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Virgin Express in Europe is not doing very well in the midst of competition. Virgin Blue does ok in Australia because there wasn't much competition. I don't think UAUA will take the British invasion at SFO kindly, nor will other carriers here in the US of A, so they will have a fight on their hands. My feeling, Virgin America is about 3 years too late and with the likes of Reid and Carty at the helm, well, Branson's not so perfect after all!!!

 

[CaptainMark]

No jabs intended..dude..if any at branson..scumbag is coming here to discount our discounters and make it even harder for the legacies...he has destroyed australia with virgin blue...but if you don't care then i don't either..cargo rules!

 

[AA717driver]

I think they'll do just fine. Especially since they don't have to pay for their planes for 5 years and (like BMW...) maintenance is free for 4 years. TC