Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

Stock Analyst Bullish on Jet Blue!!!

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web

Lumber Yak

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 28, 2002
Posts
116
Found this on CBS Marketwatch today (Read Below).

Sounds great for the lucky Jet Blue pilots out there.... Also a pretty good discussion about Southwest in comparison below.

Check it out!


JetBlue soars on upgrade

By Susan Lerner, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 4:14 PM ET Jan. 23, 2003


NEW YORK (CBS.MW) - William Greene is cautious on airlines but bullish on JetBlue.


Though his view of the industry reflects concerns that the revenue rebound has stalled, pricing is under pressure and balance sheets at the network carriers are fragile and deteriorating, the Morgan Stanley analyst said the discount carrier's fundamentals are the best in the business and upgraded its shares to "overweight" from "equal-weight" with a $33 12-month price target.

Following the call, JetBlue shares (JBLU: news, chart, profile) flew $1.75, or 6.4 percent, to close at $29.25.

"No other U.S. airline comes close to financials like these," said Greene, who expects JetBlue to post year-over-year revenue growth of nearly 100 percent in 2002, a 16 percent operating margin, 286 percent growth in operating income and 123 percent growth in pre-tax income.

For 2003, he is forecasting 50 percent revenue growth, 72 percent operating income growth, 44 percent earnings per share growth, 18.6 percent margins and 62 percent pre-tax income growth.

By way of comparison, Greene said Southwest Airlines, seen by many as the darling of the industry, saw its 2002 revenue decline 1 percent year over year, operating income fall 40 percent and margins decline 440 basis points. For 2003, Greene expects Southwest (LUV: news, chart, profile) to show revenue growth of 6 percent, a 20 percent rise in operating income and an operating margin of 7.8 percent. See related story.

Greene noted that his previous recommendation had been based on the stock's valuation but that given this growth outlook for the company he believes the recent share price weakness offers up an opportunity to get into the stock.

Also contributing to Greene's positive take on the company is the company's competitive position.

"We believe that customers primarily buy airline travel on the basis of price and that the rise of Internet distribution channels has exacerbated a downward price trend. In such an environment, the low-cost producer will win nearly every time," Greene said.

Financial difficulties are also leading to a diminished threat from the major airlines as any competitive response that the major airlines may have mounted in the past will be muted by their inability to weather further losses in the current environment.

"As JetBlue grows and gains scale and momentum in the marketplace, we believe the competitive threat posed by the majors will diminish further," he added.



Yet, despite its status as a low-cost carrier, Greene said JetBlue is still realizing average fares in key markets that are 30 to 40 percent higher than the competition because the competitors are finding it increasingly necessary to discount off JetBlue's offered price to fill the same number of seats as JetBlue.

Still, in the end, an airline is an airline and Greene acknowledged that many issues could arise beyond management's control to weigh on the stock including skyrocketing oil prices, a protracted war in the Middle East that could cause a sharp drop in travel demand and unionization.

He also sees the possibility of short-term weakness in the stock if the company misses fourth quarter estimates. Although Greene believes the airline will hit his 21 cents a share forecast, he noted that there were unanticipated costs in the quarter related to a snowstorm in New York City.

JetBlue is scheduled to report its numbers Jan. 30. The consensus estimate of analysts surveyed by Thomson First Call is for earnings of 20 cents a share for the period.

Susan Lerner is a reporter for CBS.MarketWatch.com.
 
"Warning Will Robinson...!"

Although I love JetBlue, it's management and corporate philosophy....The old axiom comes to mind:

"If it seems to good to be true..."

Hmmmm.

Enron, BBC, (and others over the decades).... how many corporate games have we seen that look just LIKE this?

Hoping I'm Wrong and Cautiously Optimistic,

YKW
 
I'd like to know the answer to this question that keeps popping up about jetBlue.

People have said that JB is not currently paying for its airplanes and this is why they are "making" so much money. If this is true, when do they start paying for their planes? I'd like to get an answer from someone on the inside.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

GP
 
Not again.. I am just going to say please use the seach tool before this discussion starts over.

Chaz
 
I find it very strange that the ONLY people that ever say they are not paying for aircraft are other pilots. I have never seen 1 article which says any different. All the anaylsts only mention how well they are doing & why; because they offer a superior product at a low price with great customer service.
Do you really think that they forgot to add that little piece to their business plan? OOPs, forgot we had to pay for planes! guess we'll go out of business now! I doubt it.
Take care
Malibu
 
Future Value Future Value Future Value..

Even if those "extra" maintenance costs really did exist, the stock analysts would have ALREADY built those costs into their financial valuation models. Stock analysis is built around FUTURE VALUE. And yet, many stock analysts are bullish and the stock remains strong - makes you wonder about the validity of those original claims... These analysts wouldn't necessarily invest in Jet Blue if they thought the future value could be adversely impacted...
 
Just keep your eyes closed and keep telling yourself that we don't pay for our airplanes. When you open them in a few years don't be surprised if there are a whole bunch of (free airplanes) all over the place. I'm telling you, it's the wave of the future. Let the naughty old EU subsidize Airbus while we rip them off by getting free planes. It's a win win situation. Oh, and beware, Nato is in the process of annexing the United States.
 
It should not be overly difficult to crunch the numbers and put to bed the issue of "do they pay or do they not pay".

CASM cost per available seat mile. Two kinds, direct=only when the airplane is moving, indirect=24 hours a day ie.. all the time.

RASM revenue per available seat mile= only one kind

ASM available seat miles

RASM x ASM needs to be more than both kinds of CASM or no profit, simple and it is public knowledge. So for all of the JBLU nay sayers do a little research, get out your slide rules and come up with the answer. And for all the JBLU cheerleaders, you all should probably do the same.........
 

Latest resources

Back
Top