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July 2, 2004 This is MEC Chairman Captain Steve T**the with a message to all PSA pilots. Last month, the membership rejected a proposed Letter of Agreement, which involved issues of pay rates for CRJ-700s and work rule changes to Section 12, Section 25, and other provisions of the contract that required adjustment due to the prospect of PSA operating additional small jet aircraft. That Letter of Agreement was submitted for membership ratification and was rejected.



After rejection of LOA num7, your MEC Chairman and Negotiating Committee Member ********** met with ALPA to see if we could come up with other ideas to present to the Company that would equitably deal with the integration of CRJs on the PSA property, specifically, a slot proposal. For two days we met and we came up with several ideas that were presented to the MEC, which were rejected by the MEC with the directive that no further negotiations on a slot proposal with the Company should take place.

Since that time, it has come to my attention that the pilots at PSA are in an extremely tenuous position with respect to the future of this Company.

MRW Quite a bit less tenuous than the other two WO's that he screwed over!!!



Over the years, I have fought for the PSA pilots in negotiations, arbitrations, and in my day-to-day dealings with the Company. Pilots at PSA have entrusted me to act in their interest as MEC Chairman, and I have strived to do just that over the past several years. There are certain pilots at PSA who believe that we need not negotiate further with the Company, because four 701s have already been delivered to PSA and that more regional jets are on their way. That is simply not the case.

I have been advised by management at PSA that if the issues set forth in LOA num7, and the slot proposal are not resolved soon, then US Airways in all likelihood will pull the 701s from PSA and assign them elsewhere. If that happens, the Company and we, as pilots, will suffer. In fact, there is no guarantee that we will have jobs if we do not grow this airline by adding additional regional jets.



MRW I don't understand that at all. They had enough pilots for 30 D328's. They all have jobs when they will have 60 50 seat RJ's.

I do not view the Company’s statement to me as an idle threat or a bargaining chip. I view it as a statement of fact and that is why I am addressing the membership directly with this message.



MRW This shows the true folly in this individual's line of reasoning. How anyone in labor could, at this point, take statements from this management team as fact is beyond me. He is either delusional or is seeking to motivate others by willfully misleading them. US Airways very rarely lives up to it's promises that it makes in writing, and this poor man tells people to take a statement from them as fact.



It is extremely urgent that you contact your respective LEC representative and tell them that we need to sit down with the Company in good faith and bargain equitable pay rates and work rules with respect to this regional jet issue. If we do not take advantage of the opportunity to do so, mainline may make that decision for everyone -- that is an outcome we need to avoid. Again, it is extremely urgent that you contact your representatives and let them know that ignoring this issue is an abrogation of their duties as elected representatives of the pilot group and that we need to be negotiating with the Company over these extremely important issues. Please act now before it is too late.

I hope each of you has a pleasant holiday weekend.

Your ALPA National kneeling, suck boy - PSA MEC Chairman - Steve T**the
 
((7)) said:
I have been advised by management at PSA that if the issues set forth in LOA num7, and the slot proposal are not resolved soon, then US Airways in all likelihood will pull the 701s from PSA and assign them elsewhere. If that happens, the Company and we, as pilots, will suffer. In fact, there is no guarantee that we will have jobs if we do not grow this airline by adding additional regional jets.



MRW I don't understand that at all. They had enough pilots for 30 D328's. They all have jobs when they will have 60 50 seat RJ's.

I do not view the Company’s statement to me as an idle threat or a bargaining chip. I view it as a statement of fact and that is why I am addressing the membership directly with this message.



MRW This shows the true folly in this individual's line of reasoning. How anyone in labor could, at this point, take statements from this management team as fact is beyond me. He is either delusional or is seeking to motivate others by willfully misleading them. US Airways very rarely lives up to it's promises that it makes in writing, and this poor man tells people to take a statement from them as fact.
Is there anything that would legally prevent US Airways from re-assigning PSA RJs to another carrier?
 
"Is there anything that would legally prevent US Airways from re-assigning PSA RJs to another carrier?"


Thats for the courts to decide, there is a few lawsuits in the courts now concerning ALPA's DFR and the manipulation of Regional pilots for the benefit of the choosen class of workers. I behoves me to understand why a pilot group would allow the establishment of another pilot group on the property with super senority. Especially the scum from U and there past history. They never minded putting the screws to any other pilot group, time for the "choosen" class to accept the a** probe they have been hammering home in the industry for the last 15 years. Could not happen to a better group of weak scum.
 
Probably behoves you because PSA has not accepted this U super senority crap.

One man's view does not represent the entire group......
 
((7)) said:
1) MRW Quite a bit less tenuous than the other two WO's that he screwed over!!!

2) MRW I don't understand that at all. They had enough pilots for 30 D328's. They all have jobs when they will have 60 50 seat RJ's.

3) MRW This shows the true folly in this individual's line of reasoning. How anyone in labor could, at this point, take statements from this management team as fact is beyond me. He is either delusional or is seeking to motivate others by willfully misleading them. US Airways very rarely lives up to it's promises that it makes in writing, and this poor man tells people to take a statement from them as fact.

4) Your ALPA National kneeling, suck boy - PSA MEC Chairman - Steve T**the
1) "He" screwed over none of the other two WO's! They both made their own decisions. We are 3 seperate airlines and each made 3 seperate decisions.

2) There is no 100% certainty for mgt to place all 60 50 seaters here at PSA. We have an order, it can easily be changed, or cancelled. If the 701's go away, the likelyhood of PSA getting to 60 CRJ's is remote since I hear the plan is to get more 701's than 200's.

3) I bet ALG and PDT are licking their chops at PSA failing and stealing the CRJ's. Wonder who will undercut who first. That's how "brotherhood" works right? Oh, that's right! They are one airline now! Skip that thought.

4) Have a nice weekend
 
How can ALG steal them??? Our company disappeared last week. Just remember, we are scheduled to continuously lose a/c with no replacements at all. Think about and wonder why we might be licking our chops. Not because your company may not handle it, but an opportunity for us to keep our jobs.
 
Yea we made our seperate choices! Only after PSA ie: (the mec) broke the unified now agreement that all 3 WO's had at the time. Matter of fact the day before your hero signed off on 81 he told both other mec chairman that he was not even talking to mgmt. about it. Your MEC, not any other in the country signed off on 81 first! It is the fact!! Now your POed that you may only get 60, 50 seaters and not the additional 70 seaters, well cry me a freaking river. You can accuse the other 1 WO (alg is history) of anything you can think of. But, you can't change history pal. Live with it! Maybe in some alternate universe if you ever find yourself in a similar situation you can convince your respective mec to not break the trust and make their own seperate deals, at the expense of others. But dont dare question "your brothers" at PDT when it was our brothers at PSA that made J4J a reality that the whole industry now faces.

good luck
 
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FR8mastr said:
Yea we made our seperate choices! Only after PSA ie: (the mec) broke the unified now agreement that all 3 WO's had at the time.

I remember that. Bad form.
 

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