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UndauntedFlyer

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On March 11, 2006, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) met and in a nearly unanimous vote, decided to increase the airline pilot retirement age for ICAO member nations’ pilots from age-60 to age-65.

What that means is this: Effective November 23, 2006, the United States will be legally required to respect the new age-65 limitation and allow all foreign airline pilots from any member nation to operate in our airspace. Pilots over age-60 from ICAO member nations will be able to fly to and from all of our airports. Senior pilots from Canada, Mexico, China, Japan, Korea, Iran, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Pakistan, India, Brazil and all European nations except France (France requires all workers to retire at 60), will have a right by United States law to fly into and throughout the United States, but US citizens who are the same age will not be able to fly at all. Instead of working for a living at their professions, our pilots that turn age-60 and are employed by U.S. airlines such as Southwest, Jet Blue, US Air, United, Delta, American and Northwest will all be grounded by FAA regulation. Pilots from all other countries will have a right to make a living flying to and from American airports but American pilots will have no such right. American pilots who are over age-60, no matter that they may be in excellent health, will instead eventually become a burden on the government guaranteed and financially strapped PBGC as well as the Social Security system when they turn 62. This is all the result of a nearly 50-year old FAA regulation that hasn't keep pace with the rest of the world. Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country, this outdated regulation still applies? Why should foreign pilots be allowed to fly into American airports to earn their livings when an American taxpaying family man can not do the same thing? No matter the politics, the principals of equal rights and laws against discrimination should apply here, especially for American’s over foreign workers that pay no U.S. taxes.

The airline pilots who are turning age-60 today and in the next few years are mostly former military veterans, many of whom flew combat missions over Vietnam in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s, some even fought in Desert Storm. That means that many of our most respected citizens, the military veterans who have fought for our country are being grounded every day by bureaucracy in government combined with a labor issue. The time for change on the age-60 rule is long overdue.
 
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Ok, Capt. And do you propose that any pilot now that WANTS and has PLANNED to retire at 60 be allowed to do so with full benefits, or do you have a personal vested interest as a "I got mine" kinda guy. Some of us don't have 3 ex-wives to support and don't want to be forced to fly past 60.
 
Quit when you want. That's the American way.
 
UndauntedFlyer said:
...Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country...
Really? Nice! :D

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Originally Posted by UndauntedFlyer
...Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country...


You know I take your point about the retirement age but that above comment makes you look like a complete jerk off.
 
This is the kind of guy that probably has a 1000 pilots furloughed from his airline, yet he max's out his time and paycheck every month. There's tons of these so-called "union" men working at the major airlines.
 
Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country,

I hope that's flamebait because if you truly believe that in your heart of hearts, then you are a complete moron.


This is the kind of guy that probably has a 1000 pilots furloughed from his airline, yet he max's out his time and paycheck every month. There's tons of these so-called "union" men working at the major airlines.

Bingo. And they will need the jaws of life to get him out of the cockpit when he finally does turn 65. When there will be hundreds still on the street.

But come on Draginass, he has it rough. Do you have ANY idea how much it costs to fuel a Pitts Special these days???
 
UndauntedFlyer said:
Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country, this outdated regulation still applies? .

OK. I didn't think this was a problem but here it is stated more as I feel is correct.


Even though our pilots are just as healthy, among the world's best trained and far more experienced than any foreign pilot at flying into the most complex of U.S. airports, this outdated regulation still applies?
 
UndauntedFlyer said:
On March 11, 2006, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) met and in a nearly unanimous vote, decided to increase the airline pilot retirement age for ICAO member nations’ pilots from age-60 to age-65.

What that means is this: Effective November 23, 2006, the United States will be legally required to respect the new age-65 limitation and allow all foreign airline pilots from any member nation to operate in our airspace. Pilots over age-60 from ICAO member nations will be able to fly to and from all of our airports. Senior pilots from Canada, Mexico, China, Japan, Korea, Iran, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Pakistan, India, Brazil and all European nations except France (France requires all workers to retire at 60), will have a right by United States law to fly into and throughout the United States, but US citizens who are the same age will not be able to fly at all. Instead of working for a living at their professions, our pilots that turn age-60 and are employed by U.S. airlines such as Southwest, Jet Blue, US Air, United, Delta, American and Northwest will all be grounded by FAA regulation. Pilots from all other countries will have a right to make a living flying to and from American airports but American pilots will have no such right. American pilots who are over age-60, no matter that they may be in excellent health, will instead eventually become a burden on the government guaranteed and financially strapped PBGC as well as the Social Security system when they turn 62. This is all the result of a nearly 50-year old FAA regulation that hasn't keep pace with the rest of the world. Even though our pilots are just as healthy, better trained and more experienced than any foreign pilot flying into this country, this outdated regulation still applies? Why should foreign pilots be allowed to fly into American airports to earn their livings when an American taxpaying family man can not do the same thing? No matter the politics, the principals of equal rights and laws against discrimination should apply here, especially for American’s over foreign workers that pay no U.S. taxes.

The airline pilots who are turning age-60 today and in the next few years are mostly former military veterans, many of whom flew combat missions over Vietnam in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s, some even fought in Desert Storm. That means that many of our most respected citizens, the military veterans who have fought for our country are being grounded every day by bureaucracy in government combined with a labor issue. The time for change on the age-60 rule is long overdue.


What is your reference for this Information/News Flash? I have looked on the ICAO site, and done many general searches, and have found no confirmation on this subject.
 
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That COMMENT WAS VERY STUPID. I BET IT MUST HAVE BEEN A PAIN IN THE YOU KNOW WERE TO FLY WITH THIS OUTDATED OVER THE HILL REDNECK. DID HE EVER THINK OF ALL THE US GUYS FLYING AT FOREIGN CARRIERS WHO WILL HAVE THEIR JOBS 5 MORE YEARS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITS ALL ME CRACKERS


 
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