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One man's comparison of USN and USAF

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Hugh Jorgan

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> USN or USAF?
>
> by Bob Norris
>
> Bob Norris is a former Naval aviator who also did a 3 year exchange
> tour with the Air Force flying the F-15 Eagle. He is now an accomplished author of
> entertaining books about US Naval Aviation including "Check Six" and
> "Fly-Off". Check out his web site at <http://www.bobnorris.com/>. In
> response to a letter from an aspiring fighter pilot on which military
> academy to attend, Bob replied with the following.
>
> 12 Feb 04
>
> Young Man,
>
> Congratulations on your selection to both the Naval and Air Force
> Academies. Your goal of becoming a fighter pilot is impressive and a
> fine way to serve your country. As you requested, I'd be happy to share some
> insight into which service would be the best choice.
> Each service has a distinctly different culture. You need to ask yourself
> "Which one am I more likely to thrive in?"
>
> USAF Snapshot: The USAF is exceptionally well organized and well run.
> Their training programs are terrific. All pilots are groomed to meet
> high standards for knowledge and professionalism. Their aircraft are
> top-notch and extremely well maintained. Their facilities are
> excellent. Their enlisted personnel are the brightest and the best
> trained. The USAF is homogenous and macro. No matter where you go,
> you'll know what to expect, what is expected of you, and you'll be
> given the training & tools you need to meet those expectations. You
> will never be put in a situation over your head. Over a 20-year
> career, you will be home for most important family events. Your Mom
> would want you to be an Air Force pilot...so would your wife. Your Dad
> would want your sister to marry one.
>
> Navy Snapshot: Aviators are part of the Navy, but so are Black shoes
> (surface warfare) and bubble heads (submariners). Furthermore, the
> Navy is split into two distinctly different Fleets (West and East
> Coast). The Navy is heterogeneous and micro. Your squadron is your
> home; it may be great, average, or awful. A squadron can go from one
> extreme to the other before you know it. You will spend months
> preparing for deployments and months on deployment. The quality of the aircraft
> varies directly with the availability of parts. Senior Navy enlisted
> are the salt of the earth; you'll be proud if you earn their respect.
> Junior enlisted vary from terrific to the troubled kid the judge made
> join the service. You will be given the opportunity to lead these
> people during your career; you will be humbled and you will get your hands
> dirty. The quality of your training will vary and sometimes you will
> be in over your head. You will miss many important family events. There
> will be long stretches of tedious duty aboard ship. You will fly in
> very bad weather and/or at night and you will be scared many times.
> You will fly with legends in the Navy and they will kick your ass until
> you become a lethal force.

> And some days - when the scheduling gods have smiled upon you - your jet
> will catapult into a glorious morning over a far-away sea and you will be
> drop-jawed that someone would pay you to do it. The hottest girl in the
> bar wants to meet the Naval Aviator. That bar is in Singapore.
>
> Bottom line, son, if you gotta ask...pack warm & good luck in Colorado.
>
> Banzai
>
> PS Air Force pilots wear scarves and iron their flight suits.
 
Hugh-

It seems you have done both. What is your opinion?

As for me, there is something to be said about being a Naval Aviator.
 
mudkow60 said:
Hugh-

It seems you have done both. What is your opinion?


Short answer: He won't get much of an argument from me.

Longer one: If I were really giving advice about which academy a person should go to who wanted to be a pilot, it would be hard to ignore the fact that most of them zoomies end up in a cockpit as long as they are medically qualified, albiet wearing a skirt. Getting a front-seat flying job out of the boat school is a bit of a taller order. That being said, FLY NAVY!

PS, Mud, you still pissed at me?
 
Hell no! I ain't pissed... that was a long time ago. I enjoyed reading your post.

By the way, did you make it to the show at NAS Pensacola? It went pretty well. Lots of Navy AND Air Force stuff there.

Matt
 
Naw, never made the airshow or I'd have been huntin' your a$$ down...........to buy you a beer. I believe I was in the Philippines about that time doing a little "recon". Glad to hear the show went well and that you got a good mix of people/planes there.:D
 
...there is something to be said about being a Naval Aviator

and that is..."Why didn't I join the the AF?"

or how about:
"What the h@ll am I doing out here?"
 
HEY!!! I've never ironed my flightsuit! But, I did hear of a squadron commander who wanted creases down the arms
:confused:
 

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