Non CASS jumpseaters

[time builder]

Anyone know airlines that don't require CASS to jumpseat? An airline badge and a checkride form can be shown as proof for some airlines, right?

 

[RJP]

No airline REQUIRES cass to jumpseat. You just can't get in the cockpit. Your company has to have an agreement with the one you're trying to ride on. And who carries a 'checkride form' when they non-rev?

 

[CaptETWes]

To add on the previous post...CASS = cockpit access security system. This allows gate agents to verify, on-the-spot, your employment with your airline via a computer system that the airlines themselves maintain. It brings up your passport photo so that the agent can compare it to the passport you present to him/her. As previously stated, you can only occupy the cockpit jumpseat if it is your airline or the other airline is a CASS-approved carrier. So, to jumpseat in the cabin, all you need is your airline badge.

I agree, where are you going by asking about needing to carry your checkride form...are talking about an 8710? If so, for which cert. or rating?

 

[time builder]

Just heard of other pilots getting on Mesa using their 135.293 form, where there was no official jumpseat agreement. I'm wondering about Delta, United, Skywest, USAir, and Southwest in particular. If not, maybe I'll try jumpseating in a turboprop with AMF.

 

[sayagain?]

No airline REQUIRES cass to jumpseat. You just can't get in the cockpit. Your company has to have an agreement with the one you're trying to ride on. And who carries a 'checkride form' when they non-rev?

This may be the case but there are some stations that will require that you check in via CASS, even if there are plenty of seats in the back. They seem to come up with their own rules.

Example: In BWI, Delta mainline runs the station and works the Comair flights. I checked in for the flight to JFK and was told that there were plenty of seats in the back. The agent asked me if my company was CASS and if so, did I have my passport. I said yes to both and she tried to verify me through CASS. For some reason, the CASS system was doing crazy things and she, along with a supervisor couldn't get me verified. We were at now approaching boarding time. I informed them that I since there were plenty of seats in the back, I wouldn't need to be CASS verified. The Captain should be able to OK me to ride in back by verifying the required documents. Nope! They verify everybody through CASS. They wouldn't even call down and check with the Captain. So I spent another 2 hours waiting for the next flight.

The joys of commuting.