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Worse than Air Cargo Express in FWA? Im sure we are all in the same boat when it comes to the typical 135 freighters.... some are worse than others, but I wouldnt say that Kalitta is at the bottom by no means from what I hear from ex- coworkers that are there now, schedule is a bit rough but so is every one else's in the on- demand industry. As far as lowest pay? Try Air cargo Express and the sketchy owner who thinks that there is a gray area in every regulation that has been written by the FAA. Glad i am finally out of there and came out of there alive as well as violation, accident/incident free....knock on wood(substitues cranium). Good luck!
Baby Cakes
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Pay and maintenance might suck with Connie K. but getting Boeing 747 time? Priceless..
Kalitta's website
http://www.kalittaair.com/
Kalitta payscale, fleet, etc: http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/34/12/
Kalitta's website
http://www.kalittaair.com/
Kalitta payscale, fleet, etc: http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/view/34/12/
CWI
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Kalitta Air maintenance is just fine. There are very few DMI stickers to be found these days.
We are flying some of the best classic B747's around, FMS equiped with GPS updating. EADI's and EHSI's. Very simular to the B757 but without VNAV.
As far as pay 12 year captains are up to about $140 per hour. Third year captain pay is about $110.
Schedule is 17 on and 13 or 14 off depending on the number of days in the month, ie 30 or 31.
Layovers are great. Hong Kong, Anchorage, Chicago, LAX, Hononlulu and Amsterdam to just name a few.
Upgrade to captain 12 to 18 months.
They fly you out of your home airport 90 percent of the time and back again.
Overtime if you want it is always available.
Paycheck arrives on time.
No furloughes and hiring continues, 3 new hire classes a scheduled through the rest of the year, 12 FO's in each class and 6 engineers.
Plus free tickets to many NHRA events!!!!!!!
Go Connie!
Kalitta Air: Around the World Around the Clock
We are flying some of the best classic B747's around, FMS equiped with GPS updating. EADI's and EHSI's. Very simular to the B757 but without VNAV.
As far as pay 12 year captains are up to about $140 per hour. Third year captain pay is about $110.
Schedule is 17 on and 13 or 14 off depending on the number of days in the month, ie 30 or 31.
Layovers are great. Hong Kong, Anchorage, Chicago, LAX, Hononlulu and Amsterdam to just name a few.
Upgrade to captain 12 to 18 months.
They fly you out of your home airport 90 percent of the time and back again.
Overtime if you want it is always available.
Paycheck arrives on time.
No furloughes and hiring continues, 3 new hire classes a scheduled through the rest of the year, 12 FO's in each class and 6 engineers.
Plus free tickets to many NHRA events!!!!!!!
Go Connie!
Kalitta Air: Around the World Around the Clock
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I just got hired for the June class (see the other Kalitta thread). I've talked to several other Kalitta pilots and have a very strong impression, more in line with CWI's post than GOAROUND's. The company is growing, the left seat is not far away, the pay is better than the major's all things considered, the airplanes are nicely equipped, they're adding electronic Jepps, you work from your home for the most part, there's a new contract in final stages. I don't know what else you could ask for. In fact, I'm pinching myself to make sure it's not a dream.
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Great post CWI!
Great post there CWI! Planes get old, and even new ones that I recently have flown (737NG), get bugs in the systems and things break. I am not concerned one bit with the mx of these birds. And as long as the paycheck doesn't bounce, then I'm happy (been there, done that, no thanks!). I'm really looking forward to starting and getting a chance to fly the 747.
One quick question: when they buy you a ticket from your home to go meet the airplane, do you get to claim frequent flyer miles, or are these ID90 type tickets that have been negotiated between companies? Not a big deal; just wondering.
See you guys on line!
The Clash
Great post there CWI! Planes get old, and even new ones that I recently have flown (737NG), get bugs in the systems and things break. I am not concerned one bit with the mx of these birds. And as long as the paycheck doesn't bounce, then I'm happy (been there, done that, no thanks!). I'm really looking forward to starting and getting a chance to fly the 747.
One quick question: when they buy you a ticket from your home to go meet the airplane, do you get to claim frequent flyer miles, or are these ID90 type tickets that have been negotiated between companies? Not a big deal; just wondering.
See you guys on line!
The Clash
iaflyer
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No, the company buys the tickets off the airline websites, so we get the FF miles. Sometimes you don't get the airline you want (they go generally by price) but I've added plenty of FF miles to my airline account. Same with some of the hotels.The Clash said:
I made the jump from JUS to Kalitta a year ago, and I'm enjoying immensely. My life is very different and I'm very satisfied I made the move.
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No Way
Couldn't disagree more on the maint. I have been at places with pi$$ poor maint and this is not one of them (Kalitta Charters). Don't know anything about 10 years ago but it is stellar now. 99.9% of the stuff in the a/c works, even defferable stuff. And if something breaks, it gets fixed, fast!
Base pay sux, first year pay sux. But noone beyond the first 3-6 months (from hire date) is living on base pay. Capts average 60-100k depending on time in service, and of course how busy it is.
Ther are 3 companys.
Kalitta Charters -lears and falcons (where I work)
Kalitta Charters II- 727s
Kalitta Air- 747s
Kalitta Air is owned by Connie, Charters and Charters II owned by doug Kalitta-Connies nephew.
Not dangerous, never been asked to do anything illegal, including duty time or flying broken a/c.
I do realise things may have been diff in the past, but not now. Speaking from experience at Kalitta Charters of course.-kingaira90
GOAROUND said:
Couldn't disagree more on the maint. I have been at places with pi$$ poor maint and this is not one of them (Kalitta Charters). Don't know anything about 10 years ago but it is stellar now. 99.9% of the stuff in the a/c works, even defferable stuff. And if something breaks, it gets fixed, fast!
Base pay sux, first year pay sux. But noone beyond the first 3-6 months (from hire date) is living on base pay. Capts average 60-100k depending on time in service, and of course how busy it is.
Ther are 3 companys.
Kalitta Charters -lears and falcons (where I work)
Kalitta Charters II- 727s
Kalitta Air- 747s
Kalitta Air is owned by Connie, Charters and Charters II owned by doug Kalitta-Connies nephew.
Not dangerous, never been asked to do anything illegal, including duty time or flying broken a/c.
I do realise things may have been diff in the past, but not now. Speaking from experience at Kalitta Charters of course.-kingaira90
Bigdaddymike
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kingaira90
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CWI
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GOAROUND forgot the old saying,
"It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
But, then again, who hasn't been there before?
This open public forum is to help fellow pilots find jobs, not bad mouth airlines you don't even work for!
I like working for Kalitta Air. I was unemployed for almost two years and they gave me a job.
Kalitta will be doing more hiring. 3 more classes are scheduled for this year, with 12 FO's and 6 FE/SO in each class.
If you can't show up and personnally turn in your resume email it to the chief pilot. Take a trip to Detroit and say I just happened to be in the area and thought I would walk in my resume!
Good Luck
"It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
But, then again, who hasn't been there before?
This open public forum is to help fellow pilots find jobs, not bad mouth airlines you don't even work for!
I like working for Kalitta Air. I was unemployed for almost two years and they gave me a job.
Kalitta will be doing more hiring. 3 more classes are scheduled for this year, with 12 FO's and 6 FE/SO in each class.
If you can't show up and personnally turn in your resume email it to the chief pilot. Take a trip to Detroit and say I just happened to be in the area and thought I would walk in my resume!
Good Luck
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Flying Illini
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I'm just a new hire so take it for what it's worth. I THINK:
New hires with low heavy and international time go in as SOs. PFEs are the preferred and make up the bulk of engineers in the crew force.
As to minimums, they seem to like high time in jets, heavy and international experience a big plus. As to specific hours, I don't know, but 1,000-1,500 PIC and 3,000 TT should put you in the ballpark, then if they like you when they meet you, the chances are good. There were a few fairly low time guys picked up for the June class in Miami last week. They are still hiring for at least two more classes this year, I think that means 32 pilot and 16 engineer slots.
Also, when they fill a class they may have somebody fall out. It wouldn't hurt to offer to be there on one day's notice if that happens. I went to the company office yesterday to tie up some paperwork loose ends. The head office people who I had met before called me by first name, smiling, etc. Seems like a great place with super management and I'm really happy, and feel lucky to be there.
Final note: You only need a 2nd class physical, FO or SO, so your 1st class is good for 2 years.
New hires with low heavy and international time go in as SOs. PFEs are the preferred and make up the bulk of engineers in the crew force.
As to minimums, they seem to like high time in jets, heavy and international experience a big plus. As to specific hours, I don't know, but 1,000-1,500 PIC and 3,000 TT should put you in the ballpark, then if they like you when they meet you, the chances are good. There were a few fairly low time guys picked up for the June class in Miami last week. They are still hiring for at least two more classes this year, I think that means 32 pilot and 16 engineer slots.
Also, when they fill a class they may have somebody fall out. It wouldn't hurt to offer to be there on one day's notice if that happens. I went to the company office yesterday to tie up some paperwork loose ends. The head office people who I had met before called me by first name, smiling, etc. Seems like a great place with super management and I'm really happy, and feel lucky to be there.
Final note: You only need a 2nd class physical, FO or SO, so your 1st class is good for 2 years.
HVYDRVR
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July class!!
Hey guys....Had the offer for the June class, but due to some military requirements, I'm in for the July class. During my interview experience a few weeks ago, it was top notch. Great people, professional, but down to earth. Huge plus....It may not be FedEx, or UPS, or Southwest, but it's a job and my first 121 experience outside the military so I'm happy with that. The grass isn't greener all the time.
But hey....with the posts that I have seen on this board, seems to me people are happy with the company. And hopefully, this new contract will make it even better!!
See you other new hires around the ranch!!!
---HVYDRVR
Hey guys....Had the offer for the June class, but due to some military requirements, I'm in for the July class. During my interview experience a few weeks ago, it was top notch. Great people, professional, but down to earth. Huge plus....It may not be FedEx, or UPS, or Southwest, but it's a job and my first 121 experience outside the military so I'm happy with that. The grass isn't greener all the time.
But hey....with the posts that I have seen on this board, seems to me people are happy with the company. And hopefully, this new contract will make it even better!!
See you other new hires around the ranch!!!
---HVYDRVR
The Clash
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Congrats HVYDRVR!
Congrats! I didn't even know that they were going to have a class in July. That's great news. I'm really looking forward to starting up. I just got the ground school sked in the mail a couple of days ago. Done in just over four weeks - tight but thankfully not drawn out. Gonna be lots of studying, though....
Hey, HVYDRVR, maybe we'll meet somewhere down the road! Congrats again!
The Clash
Congrats! I didn't even know that they were going to have a class in July. That's great news. I'm really looking forward to starting up. I just got the ground school sked in the mail a couple of days ago. Done in just over four weeks - tight but thankfully not drawn out. Gonna be lots of studying, though....
Hey, HVYDRVR, maybe we'll meet somewhere down the road! Congrats again!
The Clash
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