Fairwell... My Colgan Homies

[Kaman]

Hey Cod Dude,
I know plenty about officer country, in fact I socialized and particpated in squadron sports, and off-base activities with quite a few officers that I flew with and some that I knew through flying and others purely social. In fact, my old workout partner was an ex-FooDog when I was stationed at NASNI. Great guy, and now a Delta pilot. One of my best freinds to this day.
As for that "Air Farce" comment...Well, my Dad did a few "other" things like fly combat in two wars and was in-country in another flying for a government contractor. A totally ignorant and out of context comment that you and I both know you had no business making. I don't see that as anything other than spitefull and considering he is dead even more antagonistic. I'm sorry that you feel that way about senior officers from a brethern branch of the service, and a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** fine pilot in his time.

Sadly, I can't even begin to say that I was treated as well in my eight years as a naval officer. It's all perspective

Now that comment seems to be a little more on the whining side than just complaining about schedule, lifestyle...blah, blah, ad naseum. To me it is insulting. Not out of any bitterness. Moreover it is a matter of selflessness to be not only a Naval officer, but to serve one's country. To me thats what's all about. The mission, your crew and your squadron/ship. EVERYTHING else is secondary. This is how I tried my very best to serve, and his comment really struck a chord with me and thats all I can say.
A statement like the one above made in the presence of junior enlisted personnel would be very bad for morale. I was a division CPO and TRAINED JO's! In fact, if I heard any JO's bitching within earshot I'd tell them to take it down the passageway or save for the wardroom.
This attitude that your friend seems to come across that he was like an exception rather than the rule. It's TOUGH for everyone in the military, BUT a leader...A real leader will set the tone for the division in which he is in charge. So, I cannot accept his comment out of hand and not have the hair stand-up on the back of my neck. I'm sure he's a great guy and probably was a hell-raiser on liberty like the rest of them, so I'll leave it at that...

Thanks for the "Pony"

regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead

 

[BSkin]

Kaman,

Sorry I hit a chord of yours. I was just backing a bud.

I'm sure your dad was a great man and pilot.

Now that I know you were an ex-Naval officer as well, you should know that the "Air Farce" comment is made in jest -- as is "flare-to-land, squat-to-pee". I'm sure the Air Force guys have plenty for the Navy. The comment was meant to suggest, as you did with your father's experience, that the job of an Air Force pilot is to fly. The job as a Navy pilot, once you get to O-3 (senior) and above, is your ground job, whatever that may be. Flying becomes secondary. I won't ramble anymore, just clarifying.

 

[Capn Lucky]

Hey Bskin... I thought I was your last FO.. I guess you decided to hang around for a while.

 

[BRA]

I was his last captain.

 

[chperplt]

BRA

That was funny... What's even funnier is that he was making more than you as your FO.

727PAA

Where did you run off too? It's not nice to leave and not say your good-byes.. We're keeping a running tally on who is still there.

Dave

It was one of those "CPT" checkrides that you "sorta" have to pass to get to the sim..

Interviews start up again in a week or so.. Hopefully that means classes are sooner than later.

 

[druglord]

I've always been treated well by the crew schedulers

Yeah where is big ol' one, I think is her handle on here....and heather the scheduler.... I'd likto call to sing in my times these days even though i don't work there...it gave me perpetual delight. Say hi for me cpierse....

 

[chperplt]

What's going on DL? How's TSA treating you? Do they make fun of you as much as we did.. I mean do?

Once I finish up and get some free time, you need to get your sorry ass down here and have a few drinks. The house is big, the drinks are cheap, and the food is on you!!

 

[Capn Lucky]

PARTY!!!!! I will PM you guys for a bash we have in the works for Memorial Day. Don't worry Chper. I will always return to Vegas.

 

[chperplt]

cpierse

As Bskin said, once you upgrade everything changes. Keep a close eye on your flight time/duty limits and don't let DR goat rope you into doing something you shouldn't. No matter how many times he's says it's legal, changing a pairing mid day to account for an awesome tailwind that isn't there to make you legal, ISN'T LEGAL!.

Between the vocal colganites and ex colganites on this board (and the many lurkers... I know who many of you are!! and some of you need to PM me to say hello since you won't allow PMs) we could keep a thread going for weeks on the crap DR has pulled, or tried to pull over the years.

 

[FlightTraker]

Boy, this link got long. If I remember correctly, this link is about another Colganite coming here to "Colgan West" in STL. The first question I was asked in my interview was, "Are their any pilots left at Colgan?" Honestly, I think they like us because we can put up with alot of screw sheduling and management BS I finish ground school on Tuesday.



FlightTraker

 

[great cornholio]

Yo Drug Lord
I havent heard from big ole one in a long time either man. Word on the street is that Heather the schedler is now Heather crew planner. So youll need to call the other number to sing your songs.

 

[BRA]

"That was funny... What's even funnier is that he was making more than you as your FO."

i wasn't trying to be funny. But what is funny is why he was my FO.....they had no one else that particular day..all the FO's were over at TSA.

 

[chperplt]

Heather the schedler is now Heather crew planner.

Hopefylly she'll do a better job there. I know some of you guys thought she was great, but all I got out of her was lies and Mikey said this or Mikey said that. D and Leroy would at least be upront with you and tell you what they could or couldn't do.

BRA,

I know you weren't trying to be funny... It just is funny.

Fly safe fellas

 

[BSkin]

BRA is correct, low on FO's. Being without a base, and on reserve quite alot, been flying rt. seat quite a bit.

Capn Lucky -- you were one of many FOs that I told this may be my last day flying, after getting the good news from Citrus, thought I'd earn more money and wait for the right f---ing by skeds. Well, it came last week. Originally gave one day notice (since I won't be coming for a third go-around), but, after cooling off, I said I'd finish the month. After DH'ing home and getting off lovely LVD in AUG, I knew I made the right decision. Extra scrutiny on CJC by the FAA, due to the BDL incident, though obviously not the crews fault, was evident. AUG lifer (KB) was put in a shi*ty position having to walk around that piece of crap with a safety inspector. The position they (dispatch) put us in every time we step in one of those C's is bullsh**. Some have no choice as I did for a long time, but now I do. I'll do without a few weeks pay to leave here clean.

cpierse -- another Ugh update. Got a C-5 slot with the reserves. Hates Mesa, may quit. Can't blame him.

chperplt -- correct, Leroy is the man, with Danielle right behind (though, of course not a man, right NK?) Training central in skeds now, it's ugly. Heather under Dot's wing now, uhoh! No, I'll say she tries (D), but the larger CJC gets, the harder it is to fit square pegs in round holes.

727PAA, BRA, cornholio, d-lord, and the rest of you current and former Colganites, please PM me to let me know who you are and hopefully we can keep in touch.

 

[hifhflyer]

I want to say good luck to all of you guys moving on to greener pastures. You've done your time here- you deserve great opportunities. Keep your fingers crossed for the rest of us....

Hey D- I heard a rumor you might be coming back online and heading to HYA for the summer. That's something we'd be looking foward to... I'll buy you your first beer at SD's. In the meantime, how about hooking us up with some jacuzzi suites? I'd even let you use mine...

Fly high guys!!