Extra flying outside of your regional

[MaxQ]

Assuming everything would be kosher with your 121 regional airline that you are currently flying at, would you do any extra 135 flying if you had the opportunity?

I've been approached to do some contract 135 flying once in a while. It's ok with my regional as long as I ask them first and get a letter saying that it's ok. It would pay $250/day which would be great cause we all know how much regionals pay and I could definitely use the extra money.

Would you guys/gals do the extra flying?

 

[chperplt]

Most airlines prohibit their pilots from any outside commercial flying, except military.

 

[MaxQ]

Well...... This particular one does.

So, would you do it if it was cool with your company? Why or why not.

 

[jarhead]

Most 121 carriers would frown on that. There is still a limit of 1000 hours flying per year, and if you do 135 operations in your spare time, you may well run your clock out in October or November. I don't think your regional carrier would like it much if their pilots could not fly for them in the last month or two of a given year.

 

[tubelo]

I am in a similiar situation, having an opportunity to fly per diem for the helo ems company I flew with prior to getting with a Regional. It has to be approved by our DO, but I am going to wait till off reserve before I pursue it. My guess is you will need to prove to them you would not impinge upon your 30 or 100 hr FAA limits. With a line, you could ensure that by looking at your schedule.

 

[sf3boy]

Don't log the time. Just cash the checks.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

really..

just dont log the time..

imagine making 20K/yr at some regional but you cant make extra money on YOUR free time.

Maybe if they paid pilots enough to actually live on that wouldnt be a problem.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Was wondering when someone would say that Gulfstream.......


Mr. I.

 

[jarhead]

You can earn ALL the extra money you want to on YOUR free time.....just can't do it by flying. There is NO rule against you selling paint at Sears, running your own landscapping business, selling real estate, or anything else you want to do for money, just so long as it does not involve flying for money beyond the FAA rules. You diminish your credibility when you resort to hyperbole in an example. NOBODY said you can't earn extra money in your time off. Keep it accurate, please.

 

[WhiteCloud]

There is a (small) risk of losing your job if you go against a company policy. Thing is....who are they to tell you what you can and can't do on your free time? I wouldn't want to debate it with the Chief Pilot though. Personally, I'd rather do other things on my days off to keep from getting burned out.

 

[jarhead]

Any employer can impose covenants on a prospective employee. If the conditions are that onerous, no one has a gun at your head forcing you to accept the job, and the conditions that go with it. If that type of freedom is required, you better start your own business, and become self employed. Most churches would fire a pastor who frequented saloons to get drunk and rowdy. If you work in a bank, you can not disclose personal financial information to the general public about the banks clients, or you'd be fired. An employer can set any and all conditions of behavior for its employees. If you can't deal with the conditions, move on, or form your own company or business.

 

[328dude]

If your bored on your days off, be a substitute teacher or volunteer at a community center. I do both and love it.

 

[KINGAIR PIC]

Max Q:

Seriously, you have got to think about one thing in particular when deciding to fly on the side (especially 135).

Let's say that the company you are working for does allow you to fly on the side, no matter what it is (91, 135, instructing). The 91 stuff, or instructing would be no problem (as long as you don't get violated).

But flying 135 is a different story. Let's say you go and take your 135 ride with the Feds, and they bust you. Then you are screwed as far as your airline, because you can't fly any 121 or 135 until retaking a checkride. How do you think the company will react if they have to give you an unexpected checkride?

Something you might want to think about.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Jarhead -

You gonna supplement your 17K/yr regional job by selling paint at sears for 5.50/hr???

sounds like a good life.

Your employer should stay out of your private life. Period.
Concerned about my liability by moonlighting? concerned about me showing up tired cause Im moonlighting? well than pay me enough so I dont HAVE to. Nobody LIKES to work on thier few days off.

 

[jarhead]

Gulfstream200

No, I won't work at Sears selling paint as a first year FO.....but that's exactly what my son did during his first year at Comair. Sears was very flexible for the hours he put in, understanding that Comair was his primary employer. It worked out well for him, and now he's a 7 year captain at Comair, making between 80K and 90K a year. He paid his dues without bellyaching about it. If the pay is too low for you, don't fly. Get another job...go to medical school and get to be an orthopedic surgeon or something to make big money right out of the gate. You can't do it flying. An airline will pay what the traffic will allow. How many companies do you know of that will pay more than they need to, to attract and hold an employee? If I own a company, an employee is an expense to me, and I know that I would not pay more than I needed to, to attract, and HOLD a good employee.