ExpressJet trip trade

[Ben Franklin]

I see a pattern here. Folks, do not hold out for XJET to provide an industry leading contract, we are too busy bringing ourselves down to everyone else's level.

I see a pattern here, too. Do not ever come to a union meeting, do not ever contact your elected reps and never go to the union offices and speak directly with your negotiators, you are too busy masturbating on here and the crackpipe to make a difference in your own life.


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Ben Franklin]

Ummm, No. I remember no one carrying it around anywhere near me nor did I actually see anyone carrying around anything about anything.

OK SO SINCE YOU NEVER SAW IT OR CAN'T REMEMBER IT, THAT MEANS THAT IT NEVER HAPPENED? - OK <yawn>


Printed materials sent to the addresses on record is the ONLY way proper governance is assured and information disseminated.

GOOD, SO THEN YOU HAVE PASSED A RESOLUTION AT YOUR LEC MEETING TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THINGS HAPPEN? - OH, THAT's RIGHT, YOU CAN'T PUT THE COMPUTER DOWN LONG ENOUGH TO GET TO A MEETING BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO BUSY DISSEMINATING INFORMATION VIA THE CRACKPIPE (THANKS FOR LEADING BY EXAMPLE, THERE)<yawn>

Crew room visits do not cut it.

PM ME YOUR ADDRESS, THEN. I WILL COME OVER PERSONALLY. I LIKE COLD PIZZA AND BEER, I'LL BUY AND I'LL BRING THE INFORMATION - WE CAN SET UP THE ROAD SHOW IN YOUR OFFICE SO THAT YOU CAN POST ON HERE WHILE WE CHAT.


95% of everyone that has knowledge of this vote had no idea this letter existed.

YOU CONDUCTED A SCIENTIFIC POLL? OR DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ALL 927 PILOT'S PHONE NUMBERS FROM IAH AND YOU'VE CALLED THEM PERSONALLY <yawn>


The provision to allow trades between pilots is in many many contracts. In other words, it was severly lacking in substance.

THANKS FOR YOUR MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING, I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO READ YOUR SPEW LONG AFTER THE UNION DOES SOMETHING, YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR CALLSIGN TO "MR. REACTIVE" BECAUSE YOU'RE SURELY NOT PROACTIVE.

SINCERELY,

B. FRANKLIN

 

[Ben Franklin]

LOA 15 gave away MUCH more than it obtained, and is worse than the previous system.

This is pre-scab, "I'm a selfish "motherfu(ker" mentality.

LOA 15 was designed to protect, honor and preserve seniority - and it is working as it was intended.

People senior to you (i'm guessing there are alot due to your bitterness) now have the ability to get a better line during the ILIW than people junior to them. This is strictly between lineholders (senior) and reserves(junior) not between lineholders.

If you are so pissed off at ALPA, maybe you should apply for the IAH chief pilot position and show your true colors.

You certainly won't change anything within ALPA on these message boards.

Quit being such a bitch and get in the game, pu$$y.


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Jetlink]

Split? Hummm I called payroll after I dropped it to see what my check would be on 4/1. I got paid 25 hours. So I guess the check on 4/16 will be for 27.5+ the ..............wait now I'm confused.

The total amount I was payed in March =62 hours. So how can they take more away? If they do take some away in April, I think it'll still be XX hours + whatever over line value and =37.5....right?

Well if you do this in April, it will affect the May checks. If you did this in March, then obviously it will affect the April checks, however whatever your "new" guarantee is, will be split in half (or it was in my case) and half of whatever that is will appear on the first and then half plus all the extras will be on the 16th.

 

[Jetlink]

This is pre-scab, "I'm a selfish "motherfu(ker" mentality.

LOA 15 was designed to protect, honor and preserve seniority - and it is working as it was intended.

People senior to you (i'm guessing there are alot due to your bitterness) now have the ability to get a better line during the ILIW than people junior to them. This is strictly between lineholders (senior) and reserves(junior) not between lineholders.

If you are so pissed off at ALPA, maybe you should apply for the IAH chief pilot position and show your true colors.

You certainly won't change anything within ALPA on these message boards.

Quit being such a bitch and get in the game, pu$$y.


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

Pre-scab mentality...now this is a new one. I hardly think so. My desires are much more militant than any ALPA rep, and as we have gone through "the process" of all that dribble you have talked about above, some of the TAs continue to have less and less, and in some cases, the same ambiguous language that was "supposed" to be eliminated still exists.

LOA 15 is not protecting seniority at all, as further described above.

It is now protecting those with the time off to trade when the ILIW opens and has the fastest internet connection.

I do believe you are unable to comprehend and understand english as I described how, in the previous system, seniority was upheld to a higher degree, as Planning took the requests, in seniority order, and granted them if at all possible.

Please educate us on how LOA 15 has upheld seniority more so than the process that I described?

If these boards are such a nuisance to you, get off them

 

[Sam Fisher]

Jetlink,

You have absolutely zero clue how this process works, don't you. As others have stated, why don't you get off your ass and go down to the ALPA office and actually ask some people some questions. The answers might be illuminating for you, provided you could keep your pie hole shut long enough for one of our hard working reps to actually answer your questions.

Sam

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Perhaps this is why you are the former IAH FO Rep?

xoxo to you too

No, the reason is because my wife asked me too give up the position. See, I was spending every waking moment dealing with the bitching of a select few and not her.

With all my Love,
CC

PS: My life under LOA 15 has drastically improved, no spin. Also, we did send a blastmail out with the letter previously mentioned.

PPS: Every TA'd section is light years ahead of where we were previously. Call me up sometime and I am cause I would like to debate that point. My number was on the ALPA bulletin board for the past two years. Or, my VM box is 9577.

 

[Jetlink]

You Said: No, the reason is because my wife asked me too give up the position. See, I was spending every waking moment dealing with the bitching of a select few and not her.

I love you too CC, but if this is true, why were you running again? I didn't vote against you, I'm just curious.

You Said: PS: My life under LOA 15 has drastically improved, no spin. Also, we did send a blastmail out with the letter previously mentioned.

"my life", I think Ben F might find this to be a bit "scab-like" and "me orientated" =)

I would disagree with the blast mail, as I receive them all right here on my little Microsoft Outlook, and I have never seen said attachment, as this "letter" has been deemed "confidential" by the Union and is not released to the pilot group - their words, not mine.
Hey, it works for some, not for some - as I said above with the internet, and if you are there when it opens. I have improved my line under it, just as I improved my line under the old way as well, by submitting my "requests" as was the practice. However, I have run into many more MAX OPEN PAIRINGS lately, as this has to do with our low staffing levels, which is obviously a never ending problem. But at least when you submitted the requests, it had strict seniority adherence versus the "Click to Win" of the CCS system, which is not seniority based - this is my only argument in this case.

You Said: PPS: Every TA'd section is light years ahead of where we were previously. Call me up sometime and I am cause I would like to debate that point. My number was on the ALPA bulletin board for the past two years. Or, my VM box is 9577.

Ok will do, I have printed them all out and outlined them nicely in my little notebook - can you quickly comment on the TA that just took away our moving benefits, since you said "every TA" is better?

With mucho mucho more love,
JetLincoln

 

[Jetlink]

Jetlink,

You have absolutely zero clue how this process works, don't you. As others have stated, why don't you get off your ass and go down to the ALPA office and actually ask some people some questions. The answers might be illuminating for you, provided you could keep your pie hole shut long enough for one of our hard working reps to actually answer your questions.

Sam

I actually have a very good clue on how the process works, and only one other has stated what you said above, and he is an idiot. Why don't you tell us all here the answers to the subject matter being discussed here, as this is a forum for debate and enlightenment so enlighten us.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I love you too CC, but if this is true, why were you running again? I didn't vote against you, I'm just curious.

CC didn't run for the FO Rep Position. ES did.

I would disagree with the blast mail, as I receive them all right here on my little Microsoft Outlook, and I have never seen said attachment, as this "letter" has been deemed "confidential" by the Union and is not released to the pilot group - their words, not mine.

The letter is not confidential. I have seen it - because I took the time to ask to see it. It won't, however, be published. I think the letter was a mistake too, as there was no need for it, since nothing is legally binding due to it.

Hey, it works for some, not for some - as I said above with the internet, and if you are there when it opens. I have improved my line under it, just as I improved my line under the old way as well, by submitting my "requests" as was the practice. However, I have run into many more MAX OPEN PAIRINGS lately, as this has to do with our low staffing levels, which is obviously a never ending problem. But at least when you submitted the requests, it had strict seniority adherence versus the "Click to Win" of the CCS system, which is not seniority based - this is my only argument in this case.

You seem pissed that you can no longer ride the gravy train of our bogus conversion line system. Seniority is what rules in this industry and now it is being propery honored. Bubba deals are out the window now. Seniority IS being applied here because lineholders now get the pick of the open time first. I assume you don't want us to have to bid on open time like other airlines, right?

What a difference it is to be able to trade with hundreds of real trips now....provided one understands how the system works. You obviously don't, since you think "max open duty periods" equates to "lower staffing." Go call up the ALPA office and get someone to explain it to you. Perhaps you will have a better experience next ILIW.

Ok will do, I have printed them all out and outlined them nicely in my little notebook - can you quickly comment on the TA that just took away our moving benefits, since you said "every TA" is better?

True, this section isn't light years ahead as CC says, however...this IS a negotiation process. If you read the materials provided by ALPA, you will find that the company wanted 3 things from us in this process. Training on days off, reduced soft time in vacation, and fix the moving expenses. Given that the NC retained the first 2, I can live with the 3rd. This IS negotiations afterall. If you thought you'd be happy with every section, then you were living in a dreamworld dude.

With mucho mucho more love,
JetLincln

Oh I can feel the love yo......

Sam

 

[Ben Franklin]

However, I have run into many more MAX OPEN PAIRINGS lately, as this has to do with our low staffing levels, which is obviously a never ending problem.

Are you sure that you aren't running for office?

You say "wah, wah, bitch, cry and moan.. it's all LOA 15's fault" above, and yet, now you are blaming your quality of life woes on staffing shortfalls that are the fault of CAL management with this latest post.

I thought that you said that LOA 15 was to blame?

Jetlink: Make up your mind, stand a post and then Shut the FU(K up!

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

CC didn't run for the FO Rep Position. ES did.

I feel I should clarify. I did not run again for FO Rep however I did run for Sec/Tres. I made a deal with the Missus that I would give up the more demanding role of FO Rep and and run for the less time consuming S/T. However, I lost that election by 173-170, probably because I campaigned for the other guy (JM) . I just felt bad to give up my services so I ran. But, the Union is like the mafia and you can never leave. I now am doing work for the SPC and P2P.

Big sloppy kisses,
CC

 

[Jetlink]

Are you sure that you aren't running for office?

You say "wah, wah, bitch, cry and moan.. it's all LOA 15's fault" above, and yet, now you are blaming your quality of life woes on staffing shortfalls that are the fault of CAL management with this latest post.

I thought that you said that LOA 15 was to blame?

Jetlink: Make up your mind, stand a post and then Shut the FU(K up!

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

Someone has some serious anger management issues!! Please tell us all you are not a FFDO!

With all my love Ben- please have a drink for me,
xoxo,
Jetlincoln