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Airmike767

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CO has just announced that 69 EMBs will be returned to CO by 2007. CO buys all the flying from XJT. Attached is the employee bulletin.

Dec. 28, 2005
EMPLOYEE BULLETIN NO. 30
CO issued the following news release today, along with an employee Q and A. The bulletin and the Q and A are included as separate .pdf attachments.
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES TO WITHDRAW 69 AIRCRAFT
FROM EXPRESSJET AIRLINES, INC.

HOUSTON, Dec. 28, 2005 – Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) today announced that it has given notice it will withdraw 69 of 274 regional jet aircraft from its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: XJT) and ExpressJet Airlines, Inc. (ExpressJet). ExpressJet is currently the exclusive operator of regional jet services for Continental Airlines.
Continental will request proposals from numerous regional jet operators to provide regional jet service to replace the withdrawn capacity. The transition of service from ExpressJet to a new operator is expected to begin in January 2007 and be completed during the summer of 2007.
Continental is withdrawing the 69 aircraft under its capacity purchase agreement with ExpressJet, as permitted under that agreement, because Continental believes the rates charged by ExpressJet to Continental for regional capacity are above the current market.
Prior to today’s announcement, Continental and ExpressJet attempted to negotiate a more competitive long-term contract, but the parties were unable to reach agreement.
“We didn’t want to take this action, but we were not able to reach an agreement with ExpressJet to lower our cost,” said Continental’s Senior Vice President of Asia/Pacific & Corporate Development Mark Erwin. “Continental will continue to take the difficult actions necessary to remain competitive and protect the jobs and retirement security of our 42,000 employees.”
ExpressJet can continue to sublease from Continental any of the 69 withdrawn aircraft, although at significantly increased lease rates. However, ExpressJet cannot operate any aircraft into Continental’s hubs except under its agreement with Continental. Should ExpressJet elect to retain aircraft, those aircraft may be replaced by a new operator. ExpressJet has up to nine months to determine whether it will continue to sublease any of the withdrawn aircraft.
Continental Airlines is the world’s sixth-largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 3,000 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 151 domestic and 133 international destinations, more than any other carrier in the world. More than 400 additional points are served via SkyTeam alliance airlines, which include Aeromexico, Air France, Alitalia, CSA Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, KLM, Korean Air and Northwest Airlines. With over 42,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with Continental Express, carries approximately 60 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture.
For the second consecutive year, FORTUNE magazine named Continental the No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline on its 2005 list of Most Admired Global Companies. Continental was also included in the publication’s annual “Top 50” list, which ranks all companies, across a wide variety of industries, that appear in the Global Most Admired Companies issue. Continental again won major awards at the 2005 OAG Airline of the Year Awards including “Airline of the Year” and “Best Airline Based in North America” for the second consecutive year, and “Best Executive/Business Class” for the third consecutive year. For more company information, visit continental.com.
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Another brilliant move by the "talent" at the top.
CO. keeps most of its flying in house, and as a result is doing the best out of all the legacy carriers. So what do they do next? Some scum bag looking for his next bonus decides to copy all the successful airlines that outsource everything, like US Airways, United, NW, and Delta. Yep outsourcing is working out so well for them, lets do the same. That "cost Plus" situation works really well.
 
Just a quick question for you CAL fellas.
Didn't Cal sell the Majority of the EXJET stock to the Cal retirement?
How does this affect your outlook on your current leadership's decision?

Seems like the smartest thing to do is buy back all exjet stock now, since the price has tanked, then you also control the profits at exjet.
 
FR8mastr said:
Another brilliant move by the "talent" at the top.
CO. keeps most of its flying in house, and as a result is doing the best out of all the legacy carriers. So what do they do next? Some scum bag looking for his next bonus decides to copy all the successful airlines that outsource everything, like US Airways, United, NW, and Delta. Yep outsourcing is working out so well for them, lets do the same. That "cost Plus" situation works really well.
Looks like a good opportunity for Mesaba to bid with Big Sky airlines.
 
we're not the smartest bunch are we? Our careers, salaries, quality of life have tanked so we may keep the shareholders happy, so people can fly around for 200 bucks roundtrip...
 
I fly for Expressjet. I'm not worried, in fact I feel bad for the CAL pilots. They have to deal with Mesa people now. Good luck, it was fun while it lasted.
 
CptMrgn said:
I fly for Expressjet. I'm not worried, in fact I feel bad for the CAL pilots. They have to deal with Mesa people now. Good luck, it was fun while it lasted.
Trust me. We DON'T have to deal with the Mesa guys. It isn't the MESA pilot that is the problem. It is the scumbags that run that godforsaken company. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
 
Let's reopen the flow thru agreement and flow up the overage if that happens.
I for one think that we should have gone with a single seniority list, but then you would have taken the concessions beating.........we plan to hire 64 pre month for months to come why not from XJT?
 
Stupid move

CAL is about to screw up a good thing if they continue with this ,,, way to go for the bean counters they should get a raise,,, I dont think this would be happening if Bethune was still there. Yea United did this to aca and air willy, aca tanked and air willy is laughing at united its all up to what xjet management does now. United has called air willy back to fly for them,, since the crap operation they have received from mesa. I hope CAL is ready to ride the crap of bad performance when they know they have a regional that offers great service. Geez xjet is operated by cal guys they are all in the same building , wonder if someone stole kellner's parking spot.
 
Regionals need to start a cartel like OPEC to stop this undercutting BS
 
Airmike767 said:
Let's reopen the flow thru agreement and flow up the overage if that happens.
I for one think that we should have gone with a single seniority list, but then you would have taken the concessions beating.........we plan to hire 64 pre month for months to come why not from XJT?

I thank you for your support of us and while you and I think that's a great idea, 2000 or so of your breathern don't feel the same way. Thanks for the kind thoughts and words though.
 
ERfly said:
I thank you for your support of us and while you and I think that's a great idea, 2000 or so of your breathern don't feel the same way. Thanks for the kind thoughts and words though.

And I am one. I think that flow-throughs are for the idiot who couldn't get the job on his own. The village idiot could squeeze through the cracks (not that they didn't anyway) beacause the company was obligated to hire him. I know what you are going to say, but I never liked the flow through even when I was on the other side. I don't see how someone, just because they worked for the express carrier, would be better fit to fly for the mainline carrier. Corporate culture?? I don't think so. I know a number of tool bags that don't ever deserve to be flying for a mainline anything. On the flip side I also know a bunch of others who are much better than I am that are currently stuck at their regional job. Get over the flow through and get the job on your own. (that is once your buddy helps you with the inital interview)
 
bearcat said:
And I am one. I think that flow-throughs are for the idiot who couldn't get the job on his own. The village idiot could squeeze through the cracks (not that they didn't anyway) beacause the company was obligated to hire him. I know what you are going to say, but I never liked the flow through even when I was on the other side. I don't see how someone, just because they worked for the express carrier, would be better fit to fly for the mainline carrier. Corporate culture?? I don't think so. I know a number of tool bags that don't ever deserve to be flying for a mainline anything. On the flip side I also know a bunch of others who are much better than I am that are currently stuck at their regional job. Get over the flow through and get the job on your own. (that is once your buddy helps you with the inital interview)

I'm over the flow-through. I have contacts at CAL. I'm just waiting to get some turbine PIC before I exercise them. I'm perfectly capabile to get the job on my own. I have no fear of the interview or rejection. I, too, agree that there needs to be a screening process in place. I thought it was a nice getsure from the previous poster. I don't really care if there's a flow-through or not. I'm more for preferential interviews than I am flow-through. I think everybody should have to interview.
 
This is great! Those with "contacts" at CAL say "F*@k those Xjet guys. No flow through. I got mine."

This is exactly why the airline business is in the $h!tter. F*@k everyone else, I'm gonna be JUUUUSSSSTTTT fine... :rolleyes: TC
 
CAL pension fund sold XJT stock as it received it. The pension fund administrators are smart enough to know that it shouldn't hold a stock that is so dependent on the fortunes of CAL. So this recent decision likely had little to no effect on the CAL pension fund.

biggerguy said:
Just a quick question for you CAL fellas.
Didn't Cal sell the Majority of the EXJET stock to the Cal retirement?
How does this affect your outlook on your current leadership's decision?

Seems like the smartest thing to do is buy back all exjet stock now, since the price has tanked, then you also control the profits at exjet.
 
bearcat said:
And I am one. I think that flow-throughs are for the idiot who couldn't get the job on his own. The village idiot could squeeze through the cracks (not that they didn't anyway) beacause the company was obligated to hire him. I know what you are going to say, but I never liked the flow through even when I was on the other side. I don't see how someone, just because they worked for the express carrier, would be better fit to fly for the mainline carrier. Corporate culture?? I don't think so. I know a number of tool bags that don't ever deserve to be flying for a mainline anything. On the flip side I also know a bunch of others who are much better than I am that are currently stuck at their regional job. Get over the flow through and get the job on your own. (that is once your buddy helps you with the inital interview)

It goes both ways obviously. There were more than a few OTS CAL pilots who flowed back to XJT that left me scratching my head as to how they ever got hired by mainline. They certainly weren't the "best and brightest" nor were they the ever consummate professionals but like you said, a few will always slip through the cracks. Most, however, were great.

-Neal
 

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