- Nov 30, 2003
- Total Time
- 39 yrs
Of the bigs that reported so far for Q2 DL's RASM was 9.58 vs. 9.22 & 9.52 for AA & CO respectively. AA & CO both saw greater increases in RASM yet are still lower than DL.WWEfan said:It appears that most of this loss is blamed on the rising cost of fuel. I blame it on the lack of rising ticket prices/fuel surcharges.
tuna pimp said:Of the bigs that reported so far for Q2 DL's RASM was 9.58 vs. 9.22 & 9.52 for AA & CO respectively. AA & CO both saw greater increases in RASM yet are still lower than DL.
I'm not sure there was quite as much opportunity for DL to raise fares as at these other carriers. Plus, DL tends to have to fight low fare carriers in ATL and the FLA-NE corridor a bit more agressively than those two other airlines.
Still, it really bugs me to see other majors turn a Q2 profit vs. a significant loss for DL even if we are making some headway in terms of getting closer to profitability.
Sure, cause, it's all been martinis and cocktail parties over here at DL. I certainly don't begrudge the good folks over at AA a pat on the back over a solid quarterly showing but DL's had a ton of crap to deal with as well. We bust our butts also, and had to give up salary cuts, benefit cuts, hub closures, massive layoffs & furloughs, longer hours, more work, crappy management decisions etc as well.AAflyer said:We have busted our @ss at this company the past 4 years since 9/11, we had
a corrupt CEO take us to the edge of bankcruptcy, we had union sell us a sh1t contract that was shoved down our throat, we had our pay cut from industry lagging rates (unlike DAL and UAL cuts from industry leading), we have as many pilots on furlough as some airlines have on their entire seniority list. AMR turned a profit due to the cuts and hard work of labor.
We have earned this, and tastes pretty good, sorry it bugs you.
TCAA717driver said:AAflyer--I don't think he was criticizing AA and CAL, he was bemoaning the fact that DL is pulling more revenue and still posting a big loss.TC
P.S.--APA held on to the A plan. That's a MAJOR victory for Navtive AA'ers. You want higher pay rates, go to a Defined Contribution plan like every LCC out there and your hourly pay rates will take a big jump. Pref bidding would be a major QOL improvement--for those still on the property. It would condemn the current furloughees to many more years on the street. APA put together the least painful POS contract they could with the info they had at the time. And, no I'm not an APA lover, I've just seen my share of concessionary contracts. Take care.
How about get bent Mr. I'd fly an rj if it paid 6 figures! Its not the fault of the rj, just the way mgmt chooses to use them!jehtplane said:Oh boy here we go again, it is all the rj's fault. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just curious 737pylt...737 Pylt said:How about get bent Mr. I'd fly an rj if it paid 6 figures! Its not the fault of the rj, just the way mgmt chooses to use them!
I wondered how llong until someone brought up SkyWest buying ASA.ebaybob said:This morning's WSJ...about Delta trying to stay out of bankruptcy...interesting...
"Mr. Grinstein continues to pursue new financing options that could buy Delta additional time, including talks with a consortium of lenders led by General Electric Co.'s commercial lending arm and American Express Co., and intensifying discussions with SkyWest Inc. to acquire Delta's Atlantic Southeast regional carrier."
Yea. The always popular "but WE (fill in the blank with any of the majors' regional partners) are making money". One of the weakest, lamest arguments out there.fsworld said:Did I miss something? Did Delta start operating RJs? Last I checked ASA and Comair were making a profit...