Delta pilots approve contract changes...

[400ADude]

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It won't be long before 737pylt logs on:laugh:

 

[General Lee]

General Lee,

Step away from the desk, unplug the AC Adaptor and head outside and have a nice cold beer. Life is good.

I think we will have a joint agreement by Friday and we will all be drinking the Delta Kool-aid real soon. Any one got some vodka I can spike it with. These guys are way too uptight! Loosen up. Maybe undo that top button that seems to be hitting critical mass and acting as a projectile in the terminal!

All in fun.

ONE AIRLILNE ONE CONTRACT

There you go! See, I am just having fun. I also want a strong airline and I look forward to a FAIR integration. Some people have to relax a bit and not take this board soooo seriously. I don't. But, I do enjoy it.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[HA25]

What about Compass? Still gonna allow that alter ego operation to continue?

I'm sure the Delta execs are tipping their champagne glasses with big smiles on their faces.

I'd be interested in hearing about this too... what's the consensus on the flow-thru?

 

[Superpilot92]

Keep it up GL you're almost to 11000 posts Congrats on your "achievement"

With that said these really are the most pointless threads. It sure would be nice if some of you would figure out that we are all on the SAME F-ING team!! WTF

 

[Airbus_Driver]

Step away from the koolaid. Don't worry, everyone will be pissed at the seniority arbitration. That is what mergers are about.

See what I mean. "Everything is going to be ok" they say it over and over. Stunning.

This comes from a group that eliminated their FOQA and NASAP programs, has a computer bidding system 3 generations old, and has set the standard for the giveaways in scope language.

 

[Noserider76]

See what I mean. "Everything is going to be ok" they say it over and over. Stunning.

This comes from a group that eliminated their FOQA and NASAP programs, has a computer bidding system 3 generations old, and has set the standard for the giveaways in scope language.

I thought Compass set the standard for scope giveaway. Let's not be too hasty on a joint contract. I hoping for a lot more than the previously negotiated deal if we have to live with it for at least 4 years. The 100 seat replacement needs to be addressed in the contract. The company can not be allowed to merge then shrink the bottom of the list.

 

[737 Pylt]

See what I mean. "Everything is going to be ok" they say it over and over. Stunning.

This comes from a group that eliminated their FOQA and NASAP programs, has a computer bidding system 3 generations old, and has set the standard for the giveaways in scope language.

Actually compass has the honors for that. Please step away from the koolaid!

737

 

[DTW320]

I thought Compass set the standard for scope giveaway. Let's not be too hasty on a joint contract. I hoping for a lot more than the previously negotiated deal if we have to live with it for at least 4 years. The 100 seat replacement needs to be addressed in the contract. The company can not be allowed to merge then shrink the bottom of the list.

You're joking right?!? You really want to compare NWA Scope to DAL's? How many 76 seaters does DAL have to park if they park the DC9's? How many 76 seaters can DAL get for every additional mainline a/c? Hmmmmmmm?

 

[Diesel-9]

Why would anyone drop their FOQA Program? P.S. ScOpE??? At the end of 2007, DAL had 25,000,000 ASM's flown by regionals, NWA had 7,000,000. Any one of DAL's 3 largest Regional Affiliates of the 10 they operate, flew about the same amount of ASM's as NWA's total regional fleet.

 

[JohnQ]

Why would anyone drop their FOQA Program?

Why would an airline drop these great programs? On the insistence of the pilot union, IF management was using data that is supposed to be restricted/confidential/de-identified in order to pursue punitive actions against pilots--definitely NOT in the spirit of FOQA and/or ASAP.

There is are legal venues with which to do that: ASAP and FOQA are not them. If a mgmt team was attempting to use the ASAP/FOQA structure to pursue punitive actions against pilots, then I think it appropriate that the union withdraw their support until their concerns were adequately addressed.

 

[Diesel-9]

We use it in a positive way. The results of standarized approaches and consistant performance allow for insurance rates WELL below the industry average and identify areas to be addressed in initial and annual training.

 

[FDJ2]

You're joking right?!? You really want to compare NWA Scope to DAL's? How many 76 seaters does DAL have to park if they park the DC9's? How many 76 seaters can DAL get for every additional mainline a/c? Hmmmmmmm?

DAL doesn't have DC-9s.

What are the weight restrictions on NWA 76 seaters, what are the weight restrictions on DAL 76 seaters?

Luckily, DAL pilots have adopted the lower cap of NALPA's RJ limits. NALPA would have allowed NWA 90 76 seaters, DALPA reduced that number to 55 once DAL completes the acquisition.

 

[FDJ2]

We use it in a positive way. The results of standarized approaches and consistant performance allow for insurance rates WELL below the industry average and identify areas to be addressed in initial and annual training.

We're glad your management uses it that way. I would hope that if they didn't, you'd drop the program until they did.

 

[Superpilot92]

DAL doesn't have DC-9s.

What are the weight restrictions on NWA 76 seaters, what are the weight restrictions on DAL 76 seaters?

Luckily, DAL pilots have adopted the lower cap of NALPA's RJ limits. NALPA would have allowed NWA 90 76 seaters, DALPA reduced that number to 55 once DAL completes the acquisition.

You know good and well that his comments about the DC9 where under the notion NWA will soon be DAL. NWA has scope language that protects the DC9 flying and positions, DAL does not and in recent history has proven that they were to good to fly "little" airplanes. DALs scope language sucks and NWA's while not perfect is better than DALs.

 

[~~~^~~~]

NALPA would have allowed NWA 90 76 seaters, DALPA reduced that number to 55 once DAL completes the acquisition.

Excellent, thanks for the info.