Comair sends a message....again...

[surplus1]

To the "Poolies"

I sincerely hope that you are not adversely affected by any of this. I am greatful that you seem to recognize that we must care for those already here before we care for those to come.

Let us hope that management does not make any unreasonable decisions and you will become "one of us" sooner than later.

 

[Networ-King]

Way to go Comair guy/gals. Way to keep the bar where its at instead of lowering it like most of the other groups.

Fins,

Shouldn't you be here somewhere......telling these guys they make more then any other regional and that they should take cuts. hhhhhhmmmmm or do you work for Comair?

Im glad Comair and Delta have stood their ground and told management to go pound sand. Stay strong fellas, your underpaid as it is.

 

[surplus1]

Fins,

Shouldn't you be here somewhere......telling these guys they make more then any other regional and that they should take cuts. hhhhhhmmmmm or do you work for Comair?

Fins can speak for himself, but with all due respect I think you are misreading him by a wide margin. He is one of our ASA brothers and we are all members of the same team.

They stood by us when we were walking and we must stand by them while they are negotiating. Neither one of us wants to hurt the other with "friendly fire".

 

[LearLove]

WO yes, but I think that's where the similarity ends. No offense intended, that's just how it is.

Hold on there Surp1. Your head alittle big. Vanity, its the favorite sin.

Anyway - There is a history at this WO that would squash anything your PFT laidin, goin on strike when jobs are aplenty group has. NO OFFENSE INTENDED, THATS JUST HOW IT IS.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

WAY TO GO COMAIR!!!!!

Thanks a lot for standing up for all of us during this difficult time. You guys are really a class act. If more pilot groups would take a page from your book we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

 

[surplus1]

Hold on there Surp1. Your head alittle big. Vanity, its the favorite sin.

Anyway - There is a history at this WO that would squash anything your PFT laidin, goin on strike when jobs are aplenty group has. NO OFFENSE INTENDED, THATS JUST HOW IT IS.

I see you did take offense. I'm sorry.

Your recent history is what counts. You each had a choice to make and you made it. One by one. The first to run under fire appears to have benefited, at the expense of the other two, who are suffering. That was your choice and it was your right to make it.

We also have a right to make our choice, and we have. I'll grant you the circumstances are a bit different. So are the choices. Your concessions may have been justified. Your acceptance of J4J was not. You let the company railroad you, the USAways pilots railroad you and ALPA railroad you. To each his own. JMHO.

It is neither vanity nor pride. We are not better than you, we are just different than you. Just a statement of fact. "Different strokes for different folks."

 

[Flash 7]

Were making money, we will still ultimately grow.

They will play smoke and mirrors. Probably stop hiring after December temporarly saying we had our chance.

Bottom line, whatever there growth plans were for us this concession request would not have made a difference.

Were just not the type of pilot group thats gonna bend over when simply asked.

 

[tubelo]

Having just resigned my job for (hopefully) a Nov class, I must say I support the fact that the current CMR pilots are not taking concessions. Yes, I am a bit nervous, but I would rather be sacrificed during a furlough (or non-start) than come in making even less money than CMR already pays. It may mean I move to a different profession, but I would still respect the current pilots for their fortitude.

 

[prodigal]

What am I missing???

Comair is owned by Delta. Comair is profitable. Comair's profits thus benefit Delta. Comair grows and becomes more profitable. Delta benefits more. . .
Please, surplus1 or someone, what am I missing here?

 

[MedFlyer]

Re: What am I missing???

Comair is owned by Delta. Comair is profitable. Comair's profits thus benefit Delta. Comair grows and becomes more profitable. Delta benefits more. . .
Please, surplus1 or someone, what am I missing here?

Comair isn't really profitable, that's what you are missing. Comair is only "profitable" because DL carries a large part of the costs associated with running an airline.

How many reservation agents does Comair employ? None.
How much money does Comair spend on advertising? None.
How much money does Comair spend to maintain a frequent flyer program? None.
Hou much debt has Comair taken on financing planes? None.
How much money does Comair spend on gate leases in places like SAV, CHS or SHV? None.

The list goes on and on. The regional airline business is a great racket....why do think sleazeballs like JO are attracted to it?

However, let me note that regional pilot costs are not the problem. The problem is that the current business model behind the regionals is fundamentally broken. When times were better, DL and the other majors didn't care how much money they dumped into their regionals and how much they lost funding the regionals operations. Now, times have changed and the majors can no longer accept the costs of carrying the regionals. But instead of trying to fix the broken model, the majors will try to cut costs by pitting regionals against each other and trying to squeeze concessions out of pilots and all other employees.

 

[Bluewanabe]

"carrying the regionals"?

Who is this guy?

good stuff

 

[Wacopilot]

MedFlyer,

Please tell me what your experience is??? I think you are talking just to hear your head rattle.....You see, Comair once was independant. At that point they were HIGHLY proffitable. Comair is still HIGHLY proffitable. I beg you, please know what you are talking about next time.

We have had most of the cost you listed before and then some. You see, we bought our airplanes before we were a WO...Delta thought our "debt" was worth the 2 BILLION+ they paid for us. You should also know that in the financial review our union found that COMAIR has the LOWEST operating costs of the top 7 regionals.

As for our future, looks like ASA can now get what they deserve, Comair+1% no LESS and maybe more!

Go Marlins.


Waco

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

Yet another person who knows absolutely nothing about which he speaks. Comair pays Delta for all the above services, always has.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

As for our future, looks like ASA can now get what they deserve, Comair+1% no LESS and maybe more!

Waco [/B]

I'll say it again. You Comair guys are truly class acts. Everyone here at ASA truly appreciates it. Thanks again guys!!!

 

[FLB717]

Eyessss Riiiggghht, Saalluuute!