Citation Type

[Wizwheel]

Does anyone have any experience with any of the schools that offer Citation Types?

Some time ago i talked with someone who went to a school i California....a place that flew pt 91, 135 work, and trainning???

Or... How is the All ATPs program???

Any others????

Thanks, all i want is a Citation type,for fun...

 

[slowto250]

Citation 500 type schools

Don't know if they are still around, but got mine at Chrysler Aviation (Van Nuys), several years back. During the 80's and 90's they turned out quite a few type rated CE-500 drivers. They operated their own Citation 500, which served as both a training platform, and a part 135 charter aircraft. Fellow named Stelios ran the school. Very likeable, and he flew right seat on your checkride. Cost back then was around 4 grand for the 4-5 day program. Hope this helps.

 

[freighthumper]

type

Be careful about buying a type for the citation(or anything else), it is not uncommon for an operator to want/require you to have a type issued from a place that its insurance company recognizes. I have heard of people that have a type from a cheaper place being told that they would STILL have to pay for flightsafety training to be insurable. Not that I personally would ever consider buying a type to get a job(I know a few too many people that did this to only have the offer cancelled/plane sold, etc..)

 

[kilroy]

Iinsurance companys are starting to refuse insuring people not going to an approved school IE Simuflite, Flightsaftey or Simcom. you might pay for a type then have to go to sim training all over again.

 

[Sphrynxlla]

i have a citation type initially from atp, but i am PIC 135 under flight safety in the citation...PM me if you wanna ask any questions

 

[WhiteCloud]

Iinsurance companys are starting to refuse insuring people not going to an approved school IE Simuflite, Flightsaftey or Simcom. you might pay for a type then have to go to sim training all over again.

Again, my info may be somewhat outdated......the way it worked for me was to get the type in house and then go to Flight Safety for "recurrent" training which is a much shorter and less expensive course than the initial type course. I would think you are "hireable" with a legal type from anywhere but would have to go to recurrent at an insurance approved school depending on the company. If this is for "fun" why not check around your area for a Citation operator and examiner and see what you can work out. Be careful that you are not taking work away from someone else though.

 

[Spot]

"Again, my info may be somewhat outdated......the way it worked for me was to get the type in house and then go to Flight Safety for "recurrent" training which is a much shorter and less expensive course than the initial type course."

A friend of mine looked into doing it this way. Doing it in house with a recurrent ended up costing about the same (including in the aircraft operating costs, DE cost, etc) as a full initial with one of the pt 142 schools however the benefit of sim school was that he got much more stick time, better ground school, standardization, CRM, right seat time etc.

As far as the time commitment, I think doing it in house was going to be a 7 day class, then add 4 days for the sim school recurrent and you are at 11 days, the full initial is only 14 days.

Just something to keep in mind, I know people who have done it both ways.